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Yes I agree with this assessment. The 800s definitely has very little bass presence. The Clear is very accurate in bass quantity and quality. The ZMF is a very good headphone but no where near the presentation of the Clear.
Can you elaborate a bit more about your comparisons with the zmf? What do you mean by the presentation of Clear?
 
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Does anyone else find the sub bass a bit strong in the Clears? It feels like the bass beat is punching through my ears sometimes with how pronounced it is, but I'm not sure if it's just me.
 
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Completely shameless plug, but I just posted my Clear review since there aren't many around yet. It's not exactly the most original review out there, but I sincerely agree with the InnerFidelity one that it is a game changer for the industry.

(I prefer it to the Utopia, but can well understand people coming to the opposite conclusion)
Great review. What you (Tyll) say about the tonal balance of the Clears is exacly what made it impossible for me to leave the shop without them. And I find it absolutely amazing how these keep the tonal balance at almost every volume level.
 
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Does anyone else find the sub bass a bit strong in the Clears? It feels like the bass beat is punching through my ears sometimes with how pronounced it is, but I'm not sure if it's just me.
With a very clean flac, wav or alac file and a Solid state amp. Bass should be fine
 
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Does anyone else find the sub bass a bit strong in the Clears? It feels like the bass beat is punching through my ears sometimes with how pronounced it is, but I'm not sure if it's just me.
If your used to typical open backs I can understand why you think that way, I find the bass to be just fine, reminds me a lot of high quality studio monitors, a nice tight thud but not too much, so you can follow the basslines really nicely.

Very much like planars, although the Clear has some subwoofer sound going on instead of that incredibly deep bass the Audeze’s have going on for example.
 
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Can you elaborate a bit more about your comparisons with the zmf? What do you mean by the presentation of Clear?
I’m not a big elabetaror but sure I’ll see if I can add a bit more. First I’ll start by saying I think Zach’s ZMF cans are a very good value and on occasion surprise the hell out of me. For me, the most noticeable differences between say the Clear and the Eikon at similar pricing, the Clear has “Space” and “Air”, a little more 3 dimensional. Nothing seems compressed or struggled. This is likely my preference being an open back and just as likely why I find it superior to the Eikon. On the other hand when listening to aggressive music, the Eikon is crazy good.
 
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I’m not a big elabetaror but sure I’ll see if I can add a bit more. First I’ll start by saying I think Zach’s ZMF cans are a very good value and on occasion surprise the hell out of me. For me, the most noticeable differences between say the Clear and the Eikon at similar pricing, the Clear has “Space” and “Air”, a little more 3 dimensional. Nothing seems compressed or struggled. This is likely my preference being an open back and just as likely why I find it superior to the Eikon. On the other hand when listening to aggressive music, the Eikon is crazy good.
I thought the zmf was auteur as it is an openback and similarly priced.. I would appreciate it if you can compare them..
 
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Does anyone else find the sub bass a bit strong in the Clears? It feels like the bass beat is punching through my ears sometimes with how pronounced it is, but I'm not sure if it's just me.
Must be just you mate,if I'm honest I want more bass
 
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I’m not a big elabetaror but sure I’ll see if I can add a bit more. First I’ll start by saying I think Zach’s ZMF cans are a very good value and on occasion surprise the hell out of me. For me, the most noticeable differences between say the Clear and the Eikon at similar pricing, the Clear has “Space” and “Air”, a little more 3 dimensional. Nothing seems compressed or struggled. This is likely my preference being an open back and just as likely why I find it superior to the Eikon. On the other hand when listening to aggressive music, the Eikon is crazy good.
Jason what's the burn in period for the clear mate?
 
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Must be just you mate,if I'm honest I want more bass
To be clear, coming from the Elears I do get why some would want more bass overall (ie feels like it has less 'body' than the Elears) but the 'thump thump' of the sub bass just seems to really stand out to me
 
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I thought the zmf was auteur as it is an openback and similarly priced.. I would appreciate it if you can compare them..
You’d likely get better information from TSAVAlan on the Auteur. I haven’t spent time with it yet.
 
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I thought the zmf was auteur as it is an openback and similarly priced.. I would appreciate it if you can compare them..
grizzlybeast's comparison review is pretty spot on. Auteur is definitely more natural in timbre and has that smooth and refined presentation like HD600/650. It has a bigger soundstage compared to Clear. Clear has more slam and is more dynamic in punchiness. It is quicker in transient response.
 
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Not too bad really. Typically 100-125 hours to voice
Happy days,only got 48 hours on it,sounds awful at the moment,I've got a a pair of Sony in ears that cost me 60 quid that sound better,joke
 
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Can't wait to get my Nordost heimdall 2 cable for the clear,don't know anyone in here that has mentioned that they have the combo
 
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