[davidmolliere]

Well, since Solaris thread is still closed (going through a deep cleansing ), let me share my latest Campfire Audio Solaris review here. Of course, will publish it on a head-fi soon as well.

Yeah well, moderators have a lot of work to do with that astroturfing op we suffered yesterday

Off to reading your review!
Thanks

Edit : thanks for all the cable pairing tips, and comparison especially to 64 audio N8 that could very well be a very serious custom alternative to the Solaris with more kick... food for thoughts

 

[bobeau]

that astroturfing op we suffered yesterday

Er, what... did I miss something? All I saw was a report of measured unit variance and some (understandably) ensuing drama.

 

[davidmolliere]

Er, what... did I miss something? All I saw was a report of measured unit variance and some (understandably) ensuing drama.

I don’t want to stir this up here but yeah that started that way but blew well out of proportion before we even could have a substantiated report of what is happening or supposed to be happening. This will all blow over... but let’s just say it clearly didn’t start with people that even have an interest in the Solaris or even previously contributed to the thread. A lot of those newcomers actually fed the troll, more than would naturally occur I’ll leave it at that

Not sure the drama, insults, pitchforks and agressivity was understandable... this is a hobby and should be about fun and sharing (oh and mutual respect should be a given)

 

[bobeau]

I remain confused, where did astroturfing come into play? I didn't read everything and may have missed things that were cleaned up by a mod. Feel free to PM if you don't feel it's appropriate for this thread (I only ask here as it was brought up here).

 

[davidmolliere]

I remain confused, where did astroturfing come into play? I didn't read everything and may have missed things that were cleaned up by a mod. Feel free to PM if you don't feel it's appropriate for this thread (I only ask here as it was brought up here).

I haven’t logged everything but a lot has been cleaned up and now it would not look like it was. Let’s forget this and hope this doesn’t happen again, I was one inch away from simply unsubscribing to the thread and stop contributing.

 

[seamon]

I can only speak from a personal experience of how Solaris fits in my ears and how that pair “in my ears” sounds. With that in minds, I find these new flagship IEMs nearly perfect with its balanced coherent signature, natural detailed tonality, and luxurious eye-candy design.

>.<

 

[seamon]

Solaris is by far the most controversial IEM in the history of head-fi.

 

[Zhanming057]

I tend to agree. I tried the FMJ version some time ago and found it a touch too sparklg relative to the mid-bass. It should be the result of the titanium shell, since the internals are exactly the same as per a JHAudio rep. The same goes for the K10Au, which I found far more sibilant than the acrylic version, despite John Moulton stating that the internals were unchanged.



The pitch of hi-hats would be in the lower-treble. A 6kHz peak gives hi-hats more melody for lack of a better word, but bumping it too much causes plasticity. The bright tizz of hi-hats generally lies at 10kHz, which gives it the sharp tick-y-ness.



As far as FreqPhase goes, the same principles should apply to both customs and universals with equal effect. The frequencies arrive simultaneously at the end of the bore, so regardless of the depth difference, time and phase should be left intact. The difference in that regard would probably be where peaks and dips are located along the FR. But, from my experience with universal and custom Layla’s, FreqPhase is equally effective in both cases.

I had the FMJ Layla II's for close to two years before selling them. I think I largely agree with you that the FMJ is brighter than the original universal Layla's. They are also very ear canal-dependent as I've met many people who simply cannot fit either model.

That said, IMO the u18t with a good aftermarket cable and tips outclasses the Layla 2 in almost every way, unless bass quantity adjustment is absolutely critical. I would disagree with JH that the Layla does not need a refresh, since I suspect the 4-year-old BA models in the Layla can't match the performance envelop of 64's more recently developed BA's. There was a time when I would have given the opposite view, but having owned and spent extensive time with both I want to see what JH can do with an updated fully BA design.

Can't argue much at the $1500-ish price point of the FMJ Layla 2's, though.

 

[Carlsan]

Solaris is by far the most controversial IEM in the history of head-fi.

Don't know about that. I've been around for awhile and seen some pretty big disagreements, including threads closed, and vile things said within the threads.
Certainly one of the biggest in recent years. Almost felt like a mob hit.

 

[PinkyPowers]

At least I had nothing to do with it, this time.

 

[davidmolliere]

Don't know about that. I've been around for awhile and seen some pretty big disagreements, including threads closed, and vile things said within the threads.
Certainly one of the biggest in recent years. Almost felt like a mob hit.

Clearly...

Ken has provided a long and thoughtful response and it’s quite along the lines of what I would have expected. I hope this will put things to rest...

 

[ezekiel77]

Santa has just left us quite the belated Christmas gift... (@pithyginger63, you might wanna check this one out )

flinkenick's Jerry Harvey Audio Layla Review​

Looks like Layla brought one more guy to his knees lol.

I heard and loved it too. The original gigantic UIEM with the heated titanium ring. Organic and super spacious. Lacks a bit of sparkle but that isn't what it's aiming for.

Group buy, anyone?

 

[ezekiel77]

I don’t want to stir this up here but yeah that started that way but blew well out of proportion before we even could have a substantiated report of what is happening or supposed to be happening. This will all blow over... but let’s just say it clearly didn’t start with people that even have an interest in the Solaris or even previously contributed to the thread. A lot of those newcomers actually fed the troll, more than would naturally occur I’ll leave it at that

Not sure the drama, insults, pitchforks and agressivity was understandable... this is a hobby and should be about fun and sharing (oh and mutual respect should be a given)

You tried to moderate things but got called names instead. I felt bad bcos I know some of these guys from my region who. Some of them are, for lack of a nastier word, passionate. Credit where it's due, they heard it before commenting.

 

[ezekiel77]

Solaris is by far the most controversial IEM in the history of head-fi.

Dude, look up the ZhiYin QT5 thread.

 

[KuroKitsu]

You tried to moderate things but got called names instead. I felt bad bcos I know some of these guys from my region who. Some of them are, for lack of a nastier word, passionate. Credit where it's due, they heard it before commenting.

Not sure if your idea of moderation is the same as mine.

1. Dismissing the graphs
2. Accusing Sony of "astroturfing"

Sounds more like adding fuel to the fire.