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flinkenick's 17 Flagship IEM Shootout Thread (and general high-end portable audio discussion)

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  1. Deezel177
    Ah, so they’re joining Noble and Jomo in the tri-hybrid race. The DSP portion is the only thing I’ve caught wind of, but it’s disappointing to hear that it requires an external box. Nevertheless, given how I’ve grown fond of JH’s tunings as of late, I can’t wait to hear what the Janis has to offer. :)
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  2. papa_mia
    Sorry, I wasn't ready for this kind of sophisticated materials on head-fi, not even the SE6.
  3. Zhanming057
    Basically my sentiment. I really liked my Layla's back when I had those, and the Lola was fun although not for me personally. The box and new connector is a small annoyance. My JH Crew membership is still active so if do decide to take the plunge, hopefully it'll be at a slightly discounted price.
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  4. Kerouac
    Just returned to HF and noticed the Dita Fealty review on the main page. Well done / written @Wyville :thumbsup:

    I had the Fealty on a loan for some weeks, before they came your way and it's one of the rare IEMs that I started missing after they were gone. They even managed to impress me more than the Dream earlier this year and the fat cable surely is a relief (ergonomically wise) compared to the 'old' (non flexible) Truth cable. If I had to start from scratch with this (bloody wallet ravaging) hobby, the Fealty would have been high on my shortlist.
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  5. subguy812
    Certainly give you props for your loyalty to Zeus XR, but I totally get it. I also think you deserve the "Restraint Award".
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  6. proedros
    this is for the people with money to burn who sit quiet - my restraint is partly to being broke :k701smile:

    but seriously what keeps you sane in here is keeping perspective of the journey and enjoying the music whichever setup you have managed to acquire

    i mean, i started this journey here back in 2010 with a 100$ iem and a 50$ dap , i think we are good for now
  7. subguy812
    You are correct, as a consumer, once you find that signature that checks all of your boxes, just breathe and enjoy the music. Put the wallet away for awhile. I traveled down that path chasing the next best thing and if you look at my profile you will see a list of $$$. That said, it was my only hobby at the time, I stopped golfing which is another black hole of money. Remember, it was the love of music that brought you here.
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  8. subguy812
    Interesting, is this your first exposure to JH IEM's? I looked at your profile and, maybe I missed them, but I didn't see any of their product.
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2018
  9. Deezel177
    I’ve heard every single one of them and currently own the Rosie and Layla. Look closer, bud. :p
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  10. Jackpot77
    Long time Angie fan (and owned it twice), and got to listen to most of their range at Canjam London. The Roxanne and JH16v2 were the two I enjoyed the most, Lola left me strangely unmoved as I'm a huge trick fan, but the Layla was most impressive sonically. How do you feel they stack up against the current flagships from 64/EE etc, or to previous summit-fi gear like the Zeus? Interested to hear your take on how they are holding up with the freqphase tech against some of the newer innovations.
  11. Deezel177
    Oddly enough, I never truly appreciated what JH and co. had to offer with the Roxanne and Layla until I heard IEMs like the Prelude and Phantom. Now, I alluded to the Roxanne months ago as being a monitor capable of balancing both a reference, uncoloured tone and powerful, fibrous instruments, but I haven’t heard it since. The Layla - on the other hand - was a true revelation for me throughout the past year. Without being too specific, I admire its ability to shift its sonic profile with every track I play. In stage dimensions, instrumental forwardness and timbre, it’s the closest I’ve heard to being a true chameleon. The Phantom is second in that regard, but one could easily call the Layla a more neutral, mature and serious-sounding Phantom - less vibrant, engaging and musical, and all the more professional because of it.

    FreqPhase and extension are both key contributors to its performance as well. They collaborate to form the most transparent and stable soundscapes possible, allowing the music to determine its final presentation. As far as the Layla’s concerned, I’ve heard IEMs that tick almost as many boxes as a reference piece, but I don’t think have commited to the cause as much as the Layla has. The 64Audio A18 has its slight v-shape and iridescent treble, the Zeus has its absorbing midrange and crisp top-end, etc. That’s not to say either are worse than the Layla by any stretch - they’re just less of a tool. By the same token, the Layla can come across too non-chalant and uncoloured in its delivery; apples and oranges, really.

    As a technology, I absolutely think FreqPhase is still one of the most relevant innovations today. Any company who’s included varied tube lengths in their design to combat phase cancellation at least owe a bit to JH. In my work as a recording engineer, I know how important phase can be to spatial definition, transient cleanliness, dynamic impact, etc. If you use two mic’s to record different frequency ranges of a snare drum for example, and the two receive the hit at sliiiightly different times, you instantly lose at least a hint of all the aspects I mentioned. In terms of performance, I think phase management is what separates the hopefuls from the true pros - moreso than most are willing to admit.
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  12. subguy812
    Cool, sorry I didn't see it. I was interested in your take if you were just getting into them.
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  13. ezekiel77
    Race? Hyla CE-5 won it much earlier no? :ksc75smile:

    In other news, I have no idea what an Isobaric Hybrid is, but I'm sitting up and listening. Do you have any news about this songbird from AAW?

    aaw canary.jpg
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  14. ezekiel77
    Just to chime in about JH, I had JH13 and it's very special since it was my first CIEM. Also heard Layla which sounded divine. Don't know what they're doing with that big block lugged to Janis, but I'll just await its release.

    I believe that's their DOME thing.

    The ol' ball and chain.
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2018
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  15. Deezel177
    I posted about their Nightingale and Canary sometime ago:

    At the time, it was a 16BA+2DD hybrid. Your guess is as good as mine as to what could possibly be in there now.

    Well, I guess that ain't so bad. :D
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