flinkenick's 17 Flagship IEM Shootout Thread (and general high-end portable audio discussion)
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I saw your notes on the VE8, suggesting that it could use a bit more treble...I find the treble on the VE8 to be pretty much perfect and I'm tempted to say the best of anything I've heard. It's fully present and detailed, but not harsh, fatiguing sharp or overdone at all...it's a perfect balance for me. YMMV, and all that. I'm starting to wonder if the Elysium would be a bit too much in that regard.
Well it’s still a very subjective ranking, and it’s entirely how I feel about different stuff I’ve heard - useful for some, not so much for others depending on your preferences :)

I’m generally quite the treble head myself and anything that can be classified as “neutral” or “slightly dark” is way too dark for me - that’s why ever since I got a liking for bass I’ve tended to Vs, as dark and bassy just doesn’t work for me (like the Legend X)

Specifically as to the VE8, I loved it at first but got ultra bored of it within a few hours.Felt better about it than the LX but only for so long
 
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I saw your notes on the VE8, suggesting that it could use a bit more treble...I find the treble on the VE8 to be pretty much perfect and I'm tempted to say the best of anything I've heard. It's fully present and detailed, but not harsh, fatiguing sharp or overdone at all...it's a perfect balance for me. YMMV, and all that. I'm starting to wonder if the Elysium would be a bit too much in that regard.
Well, you are talking about mvv-treblehead-RAZ here. I have seen very few people as treble-hungry as him. Having heard the Galaxy V2, I think him and Sammy should have a conversation at some point. :D

But yeah, from my brief demo of the VE8 I remember feeling that the treble was damn near perfect for my own preferences and I would be cautious about the Elysium. I couldn't deal with the VE6's treble either, especially with the X2.
 
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Well, you are talking about mvv-treblehead-RAZ here. I have seen very few people as treble-hungry as him. Having heard the Galaxy V2, I think him and Sammy should have a conversation at some point. :D

But yeah, from my brief demo of the VE8 I remember feeling that the treble was damn near perfect for my own preferences and I would be cautious about the Elysium. I couldn't deal with the VE6's treble either, especially with the X2.
I keep getting the Galaxy recommended to me, I need to get me one soon..... guess I should pop over to Rhapsodio's webpage
 
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I saw your notes on the VE8, suggesting that it could use a bit more treble...I find the treble on the VE8 to be pretty much perfect and I'm tempted to say the best of anything I've heard. It's fully present and detailed, but not harsh, fatiguing sharp or overdone at all...it's a perfect balance for me. YMMV, and all that. I'm starting to wonder if the Elysium would be a bit too much in that regard.
The ELYSIUM will have more of it - hence the shinier tone and crisper cymbals - but it's just as smooth and refined. In fact, I dare say its low-treble is silkier than the VE8's. But, yeah, the VE8 is a gem indeed, and it's still the one high-end IEM I still wish to purchase one day. :D
 
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I keep getting the Galaxy recommended to me, I need to get me one soon..... guess I should pop over to Rhapsodio's webpage
I am actually really curious what you would think of the Galaxy V2. I understand from Nic that Sammy is a bit of a treble head and the Galaxy V2 combine that with some of the best bass I have heard to date. And while I had surprisingly few problems with the treble, it was always fatiguing for me over time, which was a damn shame because I loved that bass and the V2 were really exciting IEMs.
 
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With raz on this one.

After living with and getting used to the A18t, which has completely bonkers treble, the ve8 is just missing too much up top.

It’s more a tuning then a fault, but yeah, Ve8 may be a no go for the trebliest of treble heads.
 
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With raz on this one.

After living with and getting used to the A18t, which has completely bonkers treble, the ve8 is just missing too much up top.

It’s more a tuning then a fault, but yeah, Ve8 may be a no go for the trebliest of treble heads.
I also found the VE8 to be lacking up top for my tastes. The whole presentation to me was just boring, but I obviously think it was a good and highly capable IEM. Just wasn't for my tastes.
 
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Also to add to my previous comment, perhaps auditioning it with the Elysium also skewed my perception a bit of the VE8 too, because for me the Elysium stole the show.
 
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I saw your notes on the VE8, suggesting that it could use a bit more treble...I find the treble on the VE8 to be pretty much perfect and I'm tempted to say the best of anything I've heard. It's fully present and detailed, but not harsh, fatiguing sharp or overdone at all...it's a perfect balance for me. YMMV, and all that. I'm starting to wonder if the Elysium would be a bit too much in that regard.
My own take is the VE8 upper treble is more natural than the Elysium (at least the demo), there is something "supernatural" about EST upper treble although VE has done the best job I have heard of EST treble in terms of naturalness. The VE8 upper treble is still the pinacle of refinement of any IEM I have heard there is this ability to convey nuances with silky smooth delivery... Elysium feels airier and more resolved... each has its advantages.

I always felt the VE8 could have used a bit more lower treble though, it lacked a bit of energy for me and the Elysium fares better in that respect. As usual sources, preferences will matter here.
 
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I always felt the VE8 could have used a bit more lower treble though, it lacked a bit of energy for me
I'm coming from the Anole VX which I found had a touch too much energy in the lower treble and I'm finding the VE8 in comparison to be "just right" for me.
 
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too hot...too cold...just right.

pick a bowl!

the a18t treble remains some of the most detailed and energetic i've heard. even the elysium significantly softens things up top in comparison.

if you're sensitive to treble, or just prefer less of it, makes total sense that the ve8 would be your jam.
 
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too hot...too cold...just right.

pick a bowl!

the a18t treble remains some of the most detailed and energetic i've heard. even the elysium significantly softens things up top in comparison.

if you're sensitive to treble, or just prefer less of it, makes total sense that the ve8 would be your jam.
Yep! We're all looking for our own personal "Goldilocks" gear and that's where the fun is. :D
 
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Demo’ed the VE8 and it does sound a bit too dark for me and missing some treble energy. Elysium on the other hand is just incredible (at least the demo version and I‘m not a treblehead).
 
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