[Tjj226 Angel]

Apple 13pro 1tb
usd.1,720
Apple 13pro max 1tb
usd.1,860

I'd rather buy the dx300 +1tb micro sd (usd.165) amazon...

Are you talking about the cost of things on a site where people regularly drop used car amounts of money on headphones?

 

[ehjie]

Yes

 

[bigshot]

I use MicroSD cards with my iPhone. I have a TB of music on two of them, but it still isn’t enough.

 

[Blackwoof]

I take everything back QAAC 160kbps VBR is 98.9% with 1.5% being FHG AAC or 320k QAAC. My impression of QAAC vs aoTuV b6.03

1). Vomir & other wall noise artists average 80 ~ 140kbps with no issues, Meanwhile Vorbis needs 395kbps to sound decent?.

2). Blows Vorbis out the water at 32 ~ 96kbps. The Human voice - Is this a palace or a prison It transparent at 96k with QAAC while Vorbis suffers from stereo crush where everything sounds mono.

3). Vorbis VBR method is weird on Kongara by Merzbow & The baron's chamber by Prurient they need 400+ kbps but the encoder sticks to 150 ~ 245kbps with heavy artifacting. MPC/MP3/AAC all shoot past 200kbps even at 160kbps VBR.

 

[bigshot]

I have trouble figuring out what you’re talking about. Would you please restate this in simple layman’s terms? You don’t need to impress us.

 

[71 dB]

I have trouble figuring out what you’re talking about. Would you please restate this in simple layman’s terms? You don’t need to impress us.

Looks like the message is "Vorbis sucks."

 

[peskypesky]

The flagship phones do. Apple is the only one lagging behind.

And if you have a DAP with some sort of SD card expansion, you can buy 1tb sd/micro sd cards.

you said "most".

that's incorrect from what I see.

 

[bigshot]

I hang out with people who spend way too much on tech, and I don't know anyone with a 1 TB phone.

 

[Blackwoof]

Looks like the message is "Vorbis sucks."

Pretty much this I was too drunk to reply. I groan when HA says Vorbis is transparent at 160kb/s but fails on pure electronic. My four ideas why are. The bad performance on Vomir/Merzbow hints at them not using tools the codec has to half the bitrate without artifacts, They're wasting bits this is the issue early VBR had. QAAC seems to only reach above 320kbps if It needs to same with Lame/MPC. Opus is not much better HA trying to hide that the codec has window size issues which the dev made the libOpus encoder by throwing bits which shows as bloat and when fed a mono file it still pumps out 128k instead of half the bitrate like other codecs do?.

It would explain why video online using Vorbis would sound bad if It was them filming a storm.

 

[bigshot]

I still don't understand anything you're saying. I think I need to be drunker.

If it isn't transparent at 160, try 192. It's not like the file size will be all that different. Lossy codecs aren't a game of limbo, it's just reaching a data rate that works.

 

[Blackwoof]

If it isn't transparent at 160, try 192. It's not like the file size will be all that different. Lossy codecs aren't a game of limbo, it's just reaching a data rate that works.

Bitrate shifts are more extreme with Vorbis if a sample is 350kbps at 192kbps VBR it will be 580kbps at 320kbps VBR. It why I switched to AAC since It more efficient than Vorbis even at 256kbps.

It a dead codec since everyone seems to use Opus, MP3, AAC.

 

[71 dB]

Pretty much this I was too drunk to reply.

Do not drive or post when drunk.

 

[sonitus mirus]

Bitrate shifts are more extreme with Vorbis if a sample is 350kbps at 192kbps VBR it will be 580kbps at 320kbps VBR. It why I switched to AAC since It more efficient than Vorbis even at 256kbps.

It a dead codec since everyone seems to use Opus, MP3, AAC.

What about Spotify? That is a globally popular streaming service that makes use of Ogg Vorbis, unless they changed this recently.

 

[Blackwoof]

What about Spotify? That is a globally popular streaming service that makes use of Ogg Vorbis, unless they changed this recently.

It is the only one I know that uses It, The rest use either 256k AAC or 320k/V0 MP3. YouTube uses 96 ~ 160k Opus & AAC.

But for DAP/Phones AAC is the 2nd most popular codec people use It rare to see people use Vorbis.

 

[Blackwoof]

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