Final UE10PRO REVIEW!

Jul 6, 2004 at 6:00 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 17

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Introduction
Greetings to all of you! Hope you are not very disappointed you had to wait for such a long time to receive this message from me. First of all, before we could advance hearing to these headphones, I would like to inform you about how I got to order them, about the company and of course about the customer's sevice.

Well, let's get started. For a very long period of time I was interested in that certain type of headphones. As early as I was buying those famous "Etymotic ER4S". In that period I hadn't have that financial possibility to afford such an expensive product and the sure fact was that I couldn't venture. Well, you can consider for yourself: the price of a pair of custom in-ear monitros was under two thousand dollars, but the price of "Etymotic" ear-canalphones was only about three hundred dollars. Well, as you can see, the time was running away and the sure thing is that the technological progress was in the long run too, and fortunately that long-expected wish of mine to buy this amazing product turned into reality. I started with a serious and a long time internet search, many tempting offers on the look-out for the best decision. Finally, there were chosen two convenient models, similar in the price and its specific feature. That's why it was a really hard choice to make. But taking into considration the "ULTIMATE EARS" company popularity and also the good and gladening impression of its customers, I prefered those "UE10Pro" earphones rather than ES3.

Then immediately we had to search an audiological centre to take ear impressions. That task wasn’t so easy to accomplish as I thought it would be. First we had to choose the right centre because the casting was an impotrtant step in order to make a good impression of those headphones: even the minimum inaccuracy of taking impressions would unfit the ears, and would cause disagreement or discomfort and as an outcome a bad disposal. Finally the right centre was found. Here I had no problems with taking ear impressions.

Then started the second step. I had to contact the Ultimate Ears company and to concord with them the delivery. I had the honor to talk with the president of the company herself. So, I succeed to have with them an agreement in connection with that headphones delivery, their colour and with other additional accessories. The next day I sent ear impressions.As I found , they don’t have to be kept for a very long time as it can shrink. After that I had nothing else to do in that preparational process. The only thing I could do was to wait and to hope that everyting would be just fine.

According as the sending of products was approaching it started to be more and more nerve-racking for me. I had to make an agreement with a well-known pilot about its delivery in Moscow. The Ultimate Ears company had important task to deliver those headphones in hotel in New-York in a certain time limits. And they succeed to do their work very well that’s why I want to thank them again. Then I realised that i wasn’t so nervous because of the delivery itself, but more because of the sound quality. „Will they justify my expactations?” - I was asking myself.

!!!Now i can afirm without no dout: ”Yes, they justified my hopes and expectations and even more!”!!!

Test compositions
Now I will post a few performers and their albums elected by my own for testing the sound:
1.Eros Ramazzotti – Eros9
2.Chris Spheeris – Culture, Eros, Dancing With The Muse
3.Celine Dion – One Heart
4.Keiko Matsui - Whisper From The Mirror
5.Engelbert Humperdinck – The Best
6.Oleg Mityaev – The Best Songs
7.Pink Floyd – The Wall, Dark Side Of The Moon, A Momentary Lapse Of Reason
8.FleetWood Mac – Rumours
9.Govi – Saffron & Silk
10.Bach, Johann Sebastian – Forever Classics
11.Patricia Kaas - Mademoiselle Chante
12.Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
13.Tony Braxton – Secrets
14.Acoustic Alchemy - Against The Grain, Arcan'um, Back On The Case, The New Edge
15.Chris Rea – The Best
16.Depeche Mode – Songs Of Faith And Devotion
17.Loreena McKennitt - The Book Of Secrets
18.Ten Sharp – Best Hits
19.Karunesh - Call Of The Unknown
20.Rockets – Don’t Stop
21.Fausto Papetti – All Time Favourits
22.Victor Coy – Last Hero, Star Named The Sun, Black Album
23.Gioacchino Rossini - Stabat Mater
24.Sting – Field Of Gold
25.Vanessa Mae – Storm
26.Pat Metheny - One Quiet Night
27.Adriano Celentano – Io Non So Parlal D’Amore


Music
I would like to specify that the main testing aim is the appreciation of the naturalness of the each instrumental sound. A special attention was given to the real and authentic transmission of the vocal sound such as – solo, duets, chorus –that are more difficult for those audiosystems.

We can distinguish Gioacchino Rossini as a really difficult sound: high formants of boy’s voices are situated on crossover frequencies of most acoustic systems. But anyway the Ultimate Ears’ headphones cleared up very easy this problem and finally we got rid of that unpleasant dispersion of each voices in the chorus. It was the impression of a “flying sound” thank to that qualitative dynamic tuning fork and to the isolated noise made by those first class headphones . Here we have to mention the cloth rustle or any other sound or registering.

Talking about chorus the headphones succeed very well in their charge, after what I decided to check its ability in the solo vocal recordings. For that aim was chosen Loreena McKennitt’s CD - The Book of secrets. In that certain composition Dante’s Prayer the chorus seemed too weighty, maybe it was that little raising on low frequencies . But when Loreena started to sing ,sudenly that feeling on those low frequences music concentration disappeared. Her voice sounded so naturally that I was really excited. Seemed ,she was singing only for me, I felt that it wasn’t an ordinary performance, her soul was put in that song.Very touching…(Before burning-in the headphones, the instrumental recording sounded very away from the performer’s voices, that seemed very unnatural.But after burning them in, that effect momentary disappeared).

After hearing the vocal registering in those headphones I wanted to listen for some church organ. All those many and great sounds, the accords,the interweave between the low and high organ’s musical sounds, many headphones are not handling with them. It creates a mixing and confusing sound. The famous Toccata & Fugue in D minor in those Ultimate Ears’ headphones UE10 PRO sounded very expressive and graphical. Here I want to pay attention at that amazing sound power i perceive in those new qualitative headphones .Feeling that strong , intense and full of life instrument was just unbelievable. Well, what can I say, I really liked that organ’s sound in my headphones.

Then after some time I had to appreciate the acoustic guitar. As we all know , the guitar has a specific sound in a very wide frequency range, so it is very easy to define linearity of frequency response. I got from my shelf Pat Metheny’s Cd – One Quiet Night . The guitar ‘s sound was unbelievable , I could hear each cord, it was so easy to distinguish every string Pat was touching. The only problem was that those low cords sounded too hard – again the cause was that little raise on low frequencies.

Now let’s pass checking another instrumental soud that is piano.This time I got to choose Keiko Matsui’s CD –Whisper From the Mirror. From my point of view this is one of her best albums. The piano music sounded unusual strong and powerful, and finally I have got to listen that amazing piano music in a real concert-house! Those virtuous trills made a perfect combination with these strong exciting accords. Even those loud and slow chords were mixing together making up an incredible musical whirlpool. In that moment I had that strange feeling I was sitting there, in the concert-house where Keiko was laying. I liked it so much that I didn’t want to interrup that recording.

For checking the passing’s contrast it was chosen Pink Floyd. Those records had a real emotional profusion . The nuance’s wealth according to that dense musical sound was carefully preserved and handed to the ears. The passing between that “lively” instrument to the synthesized one sometimes was very obvious, a fact that we can’t say about any other system. I would like to specify the beginning of the Dark Side Of The Moon album: it seems that the beat of one’s heart can be sensed not only with the ears but also with the whole body. Even if the recording wasn’t so qualitative, I heard a perfect sound caressing my ears, very dynamic Pinc Floyd’s music.

We can hear an amazing sound with a perfect combination of the Acoustic Alchemy, and acoustic and bass guitar, and of course by means of high quality arrangements such as saxophone, cymbals, xylophones, bells and many others. The Acoustic Alchemy is just perfect in so called technological check on the clearness and detail sound. A lot of different musical instruments + purity of sound and really wide soundstage- that’s what you will hear in those Ultimate Ears UE10PRO.

Even if the recordings of Victor Tsoi were made a very long time ago, some of his song’s quality is still impressive. Thanks to those cymbals the musical rhythm persists in each composition, and the most important- it doesn’t cut the hearing with sibilance, because the transparency of the sound and the frequency response characteristics are different things. High clear frequncies doesn’t mean the high frequencies front ranking. Again we have to mention that clearness and that high quality sound as we noticed in many other performer’s recordings.

Fausto Papetti rapidly wraped everything with that saxophone music. I felt every performer’s breath .This is the first time I have no words to reproduce my own impressions . There ‘s no way to understand this, you have to hear it!

Now let’s have a more detailed ride in order to handover those frequencies:

Bass
For a bass testing there were chosen the following recordings:Keiko Matsui - whisper from the mirror; Celine Dion – pain, tax; Ten Sharp - rich man; Rockets - communication; Rockets – one day; Chris Rea - looking for the summer; Dire straits - heavy fuel; Sting - englishman in New-York; Govi - into the night.
Bass is very easy to be controlled:if in a certain recording, the bass is changing – In the same time it changes in the headphones. Bass is really dynamic. Here we can hear specially bass musical instruments, not that monotonous bass nag. Thanks to the bass we can easy feel the most lowest and deepest organ’s sounds, for example 25Hz-30Hz.

Midrange
For testing middlerange, there were chosen the following songs: Keiko Matsui - tears of the ocean; Vanessa Mae - I’m a-doun for lack o’johnnie; Loreena McKennitt - Dante’s Prayer; Oleg Mityaev - unfavourable conclusions;Engelbert Humperdinck - shadow of your smile; Pink Floyd - on the turning away; Pink Floyd - yet another movie round ad round; Eros Ramazzotti - un’ancora nel vento.

The transmission of the midrange takes place very clean and neat. The clearness is practically the same on the whole frequency range, and it is identical to electrostatic headphones. That is because their work principle is really alike : the same clear diaphragm, in this case it comes by turns under the influence of the magnetic but not electrical field as it is in those electrostatic headphones. Without any burning-in in we could look after displacing midrange given with the others , the voice was moving ahead the musical instruments. Then we could conclude that the given effect disappeared. That vocal sound could be heard just perfect.

Treble
For testing those high waves there were chosen the following compositions Acoustic alchemy(all albums); Chris Spheeris(all albums); Govi - saffron& silk; govi - into the night; Adriano Celentano- gelosia; Chris Rea - on the beach; Rockets - communication; Celine Dion - I’m alive.
Treble is reproduced with an unbelievable clearness and at the same time very distinctly in those given headphones. I really liked those rhythmic plates in Celine Dion’s song- I’m alive, something like this TA,TA TA, TA ,TA…TA TA TA TA TA , TA. High frequencies in composition Call of the unknown at first sight are not so obvious, but they create a transparency and vivacity of music.

Soundstage
The soundstage transmission is that way it has to be, as it was recorded. All the musical instrumental sounds has their own place. Binaural recording reproduced divinely as it has already adapted to phones. We can perfect specify if this little bell sounded two metres in the right direction, or that plate sounded three metres ahead…

Conclusion
The conclusion? Ultimate Ears UE10PRO headphones is a very tempting product even if the price is really high. That last event can not play a leading role, when we are talking about that certain high class sound. Think about this, how much will cost a simple system with the same sound pressure. But there’s something else, very important to mention- Ultimate Ears headphones are really merciless with bad-quality recordings. Having these high quality headphones, the sure thing is that you’ll have to get rid of a considerable part of your CD-collection.But maybe this would be your reward for such a high goal .Anyway, for someone who can afford to invest in this amazing product so many dollars, I think it would be no problem to buy a few qulitative recordings.
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 6:14 PM Post #2 of 17
KPOT:

I had to speed read through that twice in a row because it was just a detailed and unique perspective. Your command of the English language is quite good and it did not interfere with your message; I've got a Bachelor of Arts in English Creative Writing and a minor in Linguistics and you write better than some of the advanced English as a Second Language students at both of the colleges I attended. So, not to worry about it.

I think you really crystalized the fact that these are extraordinary custom IEMs -- they are so precise that they will make your mind nitpick whatever it is connected to in your audio system. This is good because it can help you to isolate a recently acquired component's strengths and weaknesses provided your reference system has not changed for a long period of time. This is bad because you know something doesn't sound quite right because you can hear it. I'm experiencing this right now with my source component. It's very good for the money but it exhibits digital harshness or a grainy hash in the upper midrange / treble region that is ever so slight. Then, I hear that there is a muffled veil to the entire sound as if some band was performing behind a closed curtain.

Thanks very much for the review. You did one hell of a job.
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 6:23 PM Post #3 of 17
Great Review, Now in English!
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Congratulations again КРОТ!
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Jul 6, 2004 at 6:27 PM Post #4 of 17
Great review! Definitely shows that high quality products can be expensive, but are very often worth the money for what you get.
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 6:49 PM Post #5 of 17
This was a wonderful review, KPOT. I concur with Welly Wu regarding your command of the English language. Thank you for taking the time to do the translation for us! My UE10-Pro's should be arriving soon, and now I'm more excited than ever.
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 7:13 PM Post #6 of 17
Given your belief that the UE-10s really need a great source, would you recommend that a person consider the UE-5c if one intended to use them exclusively with an iPod?

I've read your (and other's) observations about the limitations of the UE-5c (too strong bass, for example). Even so, do you think the UE-5c might be a better choice for iPod users? I am especially curious given that I rip using the default 128 AAC (please, don't scream at me - I've only got a 10GB and tons of music!).
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 7:19 PM Post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by bahamaman
Given your belief that the UE-10s really need a great source, would you recommend that a person consider the UE-5c if one intended to use them exclusively with an iPod?

I've read your (and other's) observations about the limitations of the UE-5c (too strong bass, for example). Even so, do you think the UE-5c might be a better choice for iPod users? I am especially curious given that I rip using the default 128 AAC (please, don't scream at me - I've only got a 10GB and tons of music!).



Bahamaman:

Long time no see!

Jerry Harvey believes that the Ultimate Ears Ue-5c are his personal preference with usage of an Apple iPod without a headphone amplifier. He recommends the UE-5c with the iPod combination together.

However, I still remember our discussions of past. You are kind of in a tough situation and I think I know what you're thinking: I can only afford to get one pair of non-resellable custom IEMs but I have both an Apple iPod and this great Apple PowerMac G5 supercomputer which I'll throw more upgrade at too.

First, please realize that you will need the 46" and custom 6' - 10' user detachable cable. Second, I would say that if you want to know more about the UE-5c, then ask other Head-Fi owners. You already know my thoughts on the Ue-10 PRO!
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Jul 6, 2004 at 7:26 PM Post #8 of 17
Based on how good it sounds out of the IHP-140, I'd highly recommend the Sensaphonics 2x-soft. It sounds quite good out of a portable source, and simply gets better and better sounding with higher end equipment. In this respect it is not fussy at all about source or amp.
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 7:29 PM Post #9 of 17
Thanks Welly Wu - As you might guess, I've read everything there is to read on the UE-5c. With a couple of notable exceptions, the opinions are a tad negative (at least comparing to the UE-10).

Perhaps I'm just trying to rationalize the cost savings, but I don't mind it if they are a bit bass-heavy (I one of the few who actually loved the the bass slam of my dearly departed Ultrasone HFI 700s!). If they lack some of the detail and balance of the UE-10s, I'm just not at all sure that that's a bad thing running an iPod with low bit-rate music.

At any rate, thanks for your typically expert advice and counsel.
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 9:05 PM Post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by bahamaman
Thanks Welly Wu - As you might guess, I've read everything there is to read on the UE-5c. With a couple of notable exceptions, the opinions are a tad negative (at least comparing to the UE-10).


I've found the UE5c to be a very satisfying headphone. I would recommend it to those who are "on the fence" because I haven't really seen anything that would disappoint the average critical listener. However, my best info to date is to recommend the UE5c without the "notch filter". There is some previous discussion in this forum regarding this.
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 9:27 PM Post #11 of 17
what exactly is the "notch filter"? I've heard it talked about, but not sure what it was or what it did. Mainly just curious.
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 10:14 PM Post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by bahamaman
Thanks Welly Wu - As you might guess, I've read everything there is to read on the UE-5c. With a couple of notable exceptions, the opinions are a tad negative (at least comparing to the UE-10).

Perhaps I'm just trying to rationalize the cost savings, but I don't mind it if they are a bit bass-heavy (I one of the few who actually loved the the bass slam of my dearly departed Ultrasone HFI 700s!). If they lack some of the detail and balance of the UE-10s, I'm just not at all sure that that's a bad thing running an iPod with low bit-rate music.

At any rate, thanks for your typically expert advice and counsel.



If you're using 128kb files, I would say that your money would be better spent on a hd drive (maybe a larger ipod) and your time re-encoding. Using eyts and an ipod, lossless files make a big difference. If you're wanting to enjoy all the detail, full spectrum, and background sounds, you need the full recording so something like the ue's will bring it out. I'm sure better headphones will make low bit rate songs sound better, it just doesn't seem worth the money if you're not going to take full advantage of what they're capable of.

edit: Once again, great review. I translated the Russian one using Babel Fish and it did a pretty good job.
 
Jul 7, 2004 at 1:21 AM Post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by Tyson
what exactly is the "notch filter"? I've heard it talked about, but not sure what it was or what it did. Mainly just curious.


Jerry Harvey of UE had decided that an additional combination of electronics including a resistor (and whatever else) gave the UE5c a better overall sound with less of the mid-high frequency hump that is seen on the Shures and Etys. You can get the UE5c's in either configuration, but I believe you're better without it from my limited expereince. To me, the extra circuitry creates a flatter, less engaging sound with less detail.
 
Jul 7, 2004 at 2:29 AM Post #14 of 17
KPOT -- What a great review! Exceptional detail, and impressive command of English as well!
 

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