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FiiO Q5s -Flagship Bluetooth DAC & AMP, Dual AK4493 DAC chips, Amplifier Module AM3E with 2.5/3.5/4.4mm Output, USB/Bluetooth/SPDIF/Line Input

Discussion in 'Portable Headphone Amps' started by FiiO, Mar 19, 2019.
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  1. sinquito
    Yes it is only 1 decibel, but at least to my ears (this is of course a subjective thing) the bass boost does not sound "right" and the NX4's sounds more natural. Plus I am not talking about 1 dB difference in say a noisy street, trying to compare an hydraulic hammer vs a diesel engine on a bus, I am talking a 1 dB listening on headphones in a quiet room, using the same headphones and music file. Hearing is very sensitive and adaptive. At the night when in bed I can clearly hear the noise floor of the room, which is pretty low. I am sure that at day in the same room I would not be able to make out all those little noise, less on a busy street.

    This is of course just my perception and not a factual thing. Maybe it is just the slope in the Topping is more steep as you say.
  2. billbishere
  3. KopaneDePooj
    Some topics that were discusses lately and my take on them. I won't quote anything, there's too much to quote :)

    1. Bass boost:
    I love it! The way it is implemented in Q5 and I suppose in Q5s also. For my usage scenario it is perfect: I use bass boost mostly for a lot of 70's / 80's pop and rock where the mastering was drier, with less bass and edgy vocals.
    It does the perfect thing: adds punch to bass and warms the vocals and makes them sound natural. NATURAL. Not "veiled". I think "veiled" should be banned from head-fi. As sh**t or f**ck. It's overused and wrongly used. So use it for the intended purpose and the bass boost works wonders. Before Q5 I was an avid EQ user. I needed to eq for everything. And I was doing it as Sonic Defender says it's best: Lower the frequency bands that bother you, try not to increase anything or do it in small dose. But I dunno... since I use the Q5 everything sounds perfect as is or with bass boost on. End of EQ fiddling for me. Maybe is a combination of better headphones + Q5 vs older players/phones and worse headphones that I used in the past.

    2. Balanced
    Generally balanced has one real-life benefit only: more power. End of story. Crosstalk and other "benefits" are just in theory and the values are so small that they are not physically audible. It was measured and proved by professionals. I won't look for proof now. Oh, and the connector - yes - better connector. That's it. The fact that in case of FiiO's implementation the balanced output CAN sound better is another story, and merit of their specific implementation, not a general "balanced is better".
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  4. abitdeef
    I don't no how you can describe a bass boost more natural, but the topping has a greater boost with curve that's ramped up quickly.
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  5. KopaneDePooj
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  6. abitdeef
    The differences aren't night and day but to me they're very noticable from the stock module. Mostly the soundstage and clarity and I like the way it does bass better than the am3e. It also has 90 more mw output power @32 ohms, which isn't huge but nice. The noise and distortion are lower too, which if you have sensitive iems is nice. The only time I would use the stock module after listening to this is if I had more neutral/treble forward cans and iems, I don't know if I'd like the treble- it's very pronounced and revealing.

    Chris is hbb.

    Oh and the stereo separation which contributes to the image size, is greater with the balanced circuit.

    I did mean lower crosstalk, not higher.
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  7. Sonic Defender Contributor
    Agree totally, the treble is certainly more apparent with the AM3D for whatever convergence of factors. I am just now listening to my Klipsch HP-3 from the 3.5mm output on the AM3D and very much enjoying it. On low gain and no bass boost at about 1 oclock it plays at a solid volume and sounds well controlled. Nice, just now a lovely 9Bach track (Llyn Du) is starting. This track has a constant and meandering bass line throughout that underpins the ethereal female vocal track in an otherwise very stripped down piece. Very nice.
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  8. pstickne
    That’s cool! Is this a new feature of the Q5s, or should I expect the BT EQ available on the original Q5?

    I don’t see it in the FiiO Music App / BT control (iOS).
  9. Cevisi
    The equalizer and roll of filter doesn't work at all. I can slide the sliders and choose other roll off filters and nothing happens
  10. Sonic Defender Contributor
    Just use a player like Neutron or Onkyo HF Player as both have great equalizers. When I use JRiver there again there is the built in parametric EQ or you can find free VST plugins such as EasyQ. Lots of options.
  11. Cevisi
    I stream usually. And I would like to play around whit the roll of filters
  12. Sonic Defender Contributor
    The filters I can't imagine make audible differences, if they do, they must be incredibly subtle, very, very subtle. Streaming is something that I only do at home at this point and when I do with JRiver I can use the WDM driver feature to enable DSP, but I hear you so for sure what you need differs from my needs.
  13. TooPoorForHiFi

    Since the Q5s have both 2.5 & 4.4, Can it out put both 2.5mm & 4.4mm at the same Time or does it chooses one or the other? I ask for the sole reason of A / B -ing Two IEM without needing to unplug / repluging.
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  14. noaid
    I would like to ask how this replacement is done?
    Is it possible to replace it by user? Probably not. Which battery? Where to get it?
    Is it replaced by Fiio or your dealer?
    How much will it cost?
    What is expected average lifetime of the battery in years or hours?

    Thanks for reply.
  15. noaid
    I just received my Q5s. First user in my country :), from local dealer.

    Currently charging. But my first visual/mechanical impressions:

    Front brushed plate of body has razor sharp edges and corners on both left and right sides! It may be even dangerous because when changing volume your finger may cut on it. Or tear your pocket or whatever. This is really big fail in design. It does not feel good in my hand ,like I would hold knife edge, as opposite to Q1mkII which is really very nice in hand and I love to hold it. I am glad leather case is on the way to me.

    During today I will check SE on AKG K701, balanced on my IEM KZ ZS7 and line out on my "better than average" audio system. I will compare it with Q1mkII.
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