FiiO M17 (Dual ESS9038Pro, THX788PRO amplifier, at least 1200 mW, 6.3 mm headphone jack, expected release after July 2021 )
May 12, 2021 at 12:44 PM Post #211 of 392

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@JamesFiiO ... while we have your attention and this is in the planning & development stage I'd like to ask you...

Can you please deliver this with a good parametric EQ? One where the parametric EQ operates at the native in-depth and sampling rate of the music being played. With a minimum of 7 bands, but 10 is better. So that we can take advantage of the fantastic internal amplification this will have, but driving headphones which needs _-parametric-_ equalization (to achieve subjective perfection). A crudely inaccurate slider only 10-band eq with fixed center frequencies and fixed Q is _-not-_ sufficient.

I stopped using your music player on my X7 for example (which I absolutely have to upgrade from to something else and am strongly considering this, with the desktop grade THX amp being a major draw for me). I use USB Audio Player Pro instead. Which has a hi-res driver and can take full advantage of the X7's dac chip. Because the author partnered with Toneboosters and delivers the player with a really nice parametric EQ, which has a 10-band fully parametric non-graphical mode of operation. I had to purchase that. But it was well worth the few dollars.

I'll be completely honest. If this M17 is delivered with the same FiioMusic that runs on my M6, with the same crude and very functionally limited slider-only standard 10-band EQ, I will not buy the M17. As your flagship product with truly top of the line performance, it deserves and should have top of the line software too. A very capable native bitrate 7 to 10 band -parametric- EQ fulfills that requirement.

Thank you very much for your time. I hope you will see the value in what I wrote above and deliver it.

P.s. off-topic yet related: you did this partner relationship with Viper4Android on the X7. I bought a license for the Convolution filter and another. Why did the latest firmware of the X7 do away with that? I can no longer use that which I paid $ for to use exclusively with my X7. And another reason I'm using UAPP instead of FiiO Music.

I second this and approve.
 
May 17, 2021 at 5:49 AM Post #212 of 392

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@JamesFiiO ... while we have your attention and this is in the planning & development stage I'd like to ask you...

Can you please deliver this with a good parametric EQ? One where the parametric EQ operates at the native bit-depth and sampling rate of the music being played. With a minimum of 7 bands, but 10 is better. So that we can take advantage of the fantastic internal amplification this will have, but driving headphones which needs _-parametric-_ equalization (to achieve subjective perfection). A crudely inaccurate slider only 10-band eq with fixed center frequencies and fixed Q is _-not-_ sufficient.

I stopped using your music player on my X7 for example (which I absolutely have to upgrade from to something else and am strongly considering this, with the desktop grade THX amp being a major draw for me). I use USB Audio Player Pro instead. Which has a hi-res driver and can take full advantage of the X7's dac chip. Because the author partnered with Toneboosters and delivers the player with a really nice parametric EQ, which has a 10-band fully parametric non-graphical mode of operation. I had to purchase that. But it was well worth the few dollars.

I'll be completely honest. If this M17 is delivered with the same FiioMusic that runs on my M6, with the same crude and very functionally limited slider-only standard 10-band EQ, I will not buy the M17. As your flagship product with truly top of the line performance, it deserves and should have top of the line software too. A very capable native bitrate 7 to 10 band -parametric- EQ fulfills that requirement.

Thank you very much for your time. I hope you will see the value in what I wrote above and deliver it.

P.s. off-topic yet related: you did this partner relationship with Viper4Android on the X7. I bought a license for the Convolution filter and another. Why did the latest firmware of the X7 do away with that? I can no longer use that which I paid $ for to use exclusively with my X7. And another reason I'm using UAPP instead of FiiO Music.
Dear friend,

For the parametric EQ, we are already developing it, we will release it after we have done it.

And for the Viper4Androi on X7, we have launched a note before (https://www.fiio.com/newsinfo/162105.html) :
Since the agreement of cooperation between FiiO and ViPER's Audio has expired, so we're afraid that the new version of FiiO Music will no longer have the embedded ViPER Effect plugin. However, we've been working hard on the dynamic EQ and will try our best to develop more audio effects.
If you have purchased the ViPER Effects and would like to continue using it, you may download the apk file of the old version, copy it to the player, and then install it through ES File Explorer (this will overwrite the new version).
Download link for the FiiO Music old version (apk): http://fiio-file.fiio.net/FiiO Music3.4.3.apk

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Dear friend,

For the parametric EQ, we are already developing it, we will release it after we have done it.

And for the Viper4Androi on X7, we have launched a note before (https://www.fiio.com/newsinfo/162105.html) :
Since the agreement of cooperation between FiiO and ViPER's Audio has expired, so we're afraid that the new version of FiiO Music will no longer have the embedded ViPER Effect plugin. However, we've been working hard on the dynamic EQ and will try our best to develop more audio effects.
If you have purchased the ViPER Effects and would like to continue using it, you may download the apk file of the old version, copy it to the player, and then install it through ES File Explorer (this will overwrite the new version).
Download link for the FiiO Music old version (apk): http://fiio-file.fiio.net/FiiO Music3.4.3.apk

Best regards,

Thank you, that is great news! Is it going to be a system level PEQ that can also act on streaming applications?
 
May 17, 2021 at 7:55 AM Post #214 of 392

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Thank you, that is great news! Is it going to be a system level PEQ that can also act on streaming applications?
In fact, we are currently developing based on FiiO Music, but it can become a system-level in future.
 
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In fact, we are currently developing based on FiiO Music, but it can become a system-level in future.
I don't know if you are following the other player forums, but a system generic PEQ is one of the most (if not the most) widely asked for feature and there is simply no other player in the market that is able to do it or do it properly. I think this will give the FiiO players a lot of extra points compared to the rest.

Can you at least provide an official statement with a timeline that people can expect a PEQ first for the FiiO player and then for the system?
 
May 17, 2021 at 8:37 AM Post #217 of 392

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Don’t some apps or formats disable it? I thought mqa wouldn’t allow it.
Of course, it won't work with DSD (if it is not converted to PCM first). I have no idea about MQA - anyone that wants to spend money on such closed system formats, should be ready to deal with the consequences of being constantly in the lookout for incompatibility issues.
 
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May 17, 2021 at 10:12 AM Post #218 of 392

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Dear friend,

For the parametric EQ, we are already developing it, we will release it after we have done it.

And for the Viper4Androi on X7, we have launched a note before (https://www.fiio.com/newsinfo/162105.html) :
...
Download link for the FiiO Music old version (apk): http://fiio-file.fiio.net/FiiO Music3.4.3.apk
Wonderful news. Thank you for sharing. As I don't stream the FiiOMusic integration is enough to me. Not to minimize the above request for system wide function; just providing visibility to this potential owner's use case.

As to the off-topic X7 question, thank you for that too. I did search in the X7 thread but didn't come upon that announcement. I appreciate the detail. I'll stop this off-topic talk now about that. Back to only being excited about the M17 here. :)
 
May 18, 2021 at 10:20 AM Post #219 of 392

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Since AllToDSD already working on a system wide level, hopefully it woludn't be too difficult to make the parametric EQ system wide as well. With my limited knowledge, the global paramtric EQ could be just another digital processing engine sitting at the same level as allToDSD working with the same API. If I was Fiio, I would skip parametric EQ on fiio music and would go for system wide EQ only.
 
May 20, 2021 at 3:54 AM Post #221 of 392

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May 21, 2021 at 4:46 AM Post #224 of 392

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