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FiiO M11-Android 7.0, 2.5/3.5/4.4 Powerful Output, Exynos 7872, Dual AK4493 DAC chips, 3GB RAM, WiFi, Two-way LDAC

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by FiiO, Mar 19, 2019.
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  1. JRichardson1228
    Looks like someone plugged their DAP into my dad's PC and ripped his collection from his hard drive. :laughing: That's a trip.
     
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  2. Hawaiibadboy Contributor


    If you can get this amp and have the money ...you should snatch it.
     
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  3. jmills8
    Had it, its built well. Think it will go perfectly with the M11.
     
  4. Hawaiibadboy Contributor
    Great pairing. 4.4 orgy 4.4 in then out and in...then another 4.4 sticks it in (4.4, must be midget pron)
     
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  5. audiophilefan
    No time to backread but if someone can share some insights, I'd appreciate it. I bought an adapter - 4.4mm male to 3.5mm female. It was shipped from China through a local online store (Shopee). It's probably available in Ali Express too but I did not check. Plugged in my 3.5mm headphones to it and it's working fine. However, I have mixed feelings about the sound. To my ears, there is another layer of additional detail to everything. That could be a good thing ONLY if it doesn't sound somewhat harsher. I know that the adapter's not defective because sound is clean enough, albeit being harsher/brighter. Or it's just me getting used to the "balanced" sound. Mind you, the sound directly plugged to the 3.5mm port is decidedly smoother and it's very easy to identify them even with my eyes closed. Is it the adapter being low in quality? Build quality is acceptable. Or is it really the "balanced" sound? First time to try it as I've always used SE. If anyone has a similar experience, please let me know. Thanks!

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  6. gLer
    I’m not exactly sure what that adapter is doing but you can’t get balanced sound from a 3.5mm SE connector with an adapter. So what you’re hearing is NOT balanced. You may be getting some extra power, but you’re not hearing a true 4.4mm balanced output. Best get yourself a true balanced 2.5mm or 4.4mm cable and go from there.
     
  7. Nayparm
    Yes, its better than the LPGT :L3000: but no you cant use any other android apps.
     
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  8. sabloke
    M11 and Z1R.jpg

    M11 Noble K10.jpg

    M11 Tidal Master.jpg

    My M11 arrived and after a quick charging I started playing with it. Very nicely built, fast and fluid interface, amazing quality for the money! My first Fiio DAP was the X3 II, not too bad, but the M11 looks like it is coming from another universe in comparison :) Dropped two micro SD cards in, a Samsung 256 GB and a SanDisk 200GB, both recognised and scanned without any issues. I have formatted the SanDisk one in the unit, just to see how that work. No issues. The only problem so far is that Tidal would not use the microSD card for storage. I will have to look into that as the internal storage is very small and I'm not keen to fill it with tunes.
    Sound wise I am still testing but so far I am impressed. M11 is driving nicely my Sony Z1Rs over the 4.4mm balanced port and the Noble K10 sounds really sweet driven from the 2.5mm balanced port. Will have to see how it compared with my MojoPoly but so far so good. What I can already say is that it has plenty of power and no headphone in my collection will be begging for more.

    All in all, I think that the M11 is a steal at this price. I looked into buying an A&K DAP for 3X the asking price but the lack of 4.4mm balanced port made me go for Fiio. The 2.5mm ports are a joke and the sooner they die, the better. Sometimes I wish Apple used because it would have been eradicated by now :D

    PS: just got confirmation my free leather M11 case will be on its way starting 25 June. Thanks Fiio!
     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2019
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  9. DrKrFfXx
    I have no electrical background aside from putting a key inside the wall outlet when I was a kid, but in my eyes you are some sort of shorting the two grounds together and probably might end up damaging the internals of the player.
     
  10. sabloke
    OK to go from balanced plug to single entry, but going the other way around will damage your DAP. Don't do it!!!
     
  11. sabloke
    Screenshot_20190614-200808_Settings.jpg 15605082319194257722396282560047.jpg Yesssss!
     
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  12. Jujoe
    DSC_0004[1].JPG Pure sink mode :p Just heads up for anyone looking to use pure sink mode its very tinny :frowning2:

    Juj
     
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  13. DrKrFfXx
    Say what now? Why?
     
  14. Acacia71
    Remarks after a week listening etc.

    First where I come from: Pioneer XDP-100R, using Shure KSE1200 (IEM portable electrostats), Sennheiser HD598 (over ear), Sennheiser Momentum (true wireless IEM).

    Soundwise I am not overwhelmed, alas. This is not a big leap forward from the Pioneer, a DAP with several weak points, but not the audio. That was fine. I was hoping for more after 4 years of tech progress, double DACs, balanced output, positive reviews (factory sponsored and/or genuine, hard to tell these days) etc. Not the fault of Fiio of course, these high expectations of mine. The bottom line is: the Fiio sounds only just as good as the Pioneer. I had hoped for more. Other elements are improvements though.

    Biggest let down, and this is the fault of Fiio, is the poor software of the Music App, functions that I didn't get to work at all (playlists, wifi transfer, air play, dlna) or not as one would expect (search, tag edit, eq, touch screen). The lack of a manual, referred to in the quick guide but absent on the Fiio site, is sad. Why should I first pay 500 euros for a device are then be obliged to figured out myself how everything works? UPDATE: Meanwhile, the complete manual has shown up on the new Fiio site http://user-guide.fiio.net/M1_Complete_User_Manual-V1.2-EN.pdf. Better later than never.

    I would not have bought the M11 were it not for the 2 micro SD slots, as in the Pioneer. They work as you might expect, I have 2 of 400 gb.

    The fact that my favourite app Poweramp implemented HiRes for the M11, only weeks before the start of the sale, has won me over. So I can now ignore the Fiio Music App and enjoy Poweramp with a much better User Interface. And the sound is just as good and more adaptable (better eq).

    I really don't like to come across language that I cannot read. Chinese characters in this case. The same on the Fiio website where some pages are unreadable because of this. Maybe this is due to the migration from Fiio.net to Fiio.com but it all makes a rather amateurish impression.

    In spite of everything and since I am not condemned to using the Fiio Music App I don’t regret buying and keeping the M11. Here is why:

    Like with the Pioneer I am happy with the sound of the M11, even if I don't hear an improvement over the Pioneer. I have to add that my appreciation is probably largely due to the astounding KSE1200. With the HD598 the sound is just very reasonable. The balanced cable I especially bought for the M11-HD598 gives more power to these big cans but I don’t hear a difference in sound quality. I could have saved myself the 33 dollar.

    I like the screen, size and quality and the form factor, though I would have preferred the buttons and the volume wheel on the other side. And a screen protector on the front would have been nice.

    The Bluetooth codec that I use, aptx HD, works flawlessly (transmitting; have not tried receiving). The sound is good and there are no drop outs, other than with the Pioneer.

    Everything works faster than I was used to, including handling the sd card contents on the pc.

    Battery life as far as I witnessed so far is good.

    If I might make one wish it would be one touch wake up. Just as when the DAP is docked and/or charging and the screensaver is on while music is playing: you tap once and you are in. Much better than the double tapping that one has to do when not docked and/or charging. This double tapping is cumbersome and annoying.

    And why not the dimmed album art as a screensaver?

    To top it of, would it be difficult to introduce of few gestures on the same sleeping/dimmed screen that you see when charging, to avoid first waking it up? And to avoid targeting your finger to a small spot on the screen in order to go to the next song. The physical buttons are practical in some cases, but often not. You also have to lead you finger to them and manage pushing one without sliding the device off the table, unless you use both hands. A gesture anywhere on the big screen surface would be a much better way.

    One such gesture: Adjusting the volume: tap and hold and sliding up or down. At present, with sudden increases in the volume when a new number starts playing for instance, it takes me too much time to locate the wheel and turn it quickly enough to lower the volume sufficiently.

    Another gesture would be: next. By swiping. The same as when the screen is on. Again, I am talking about the dimmed/sleeping screen, while the music is playing. So, swipe the sleeping screen from right to left as usual, to go to the next song, without waking it up.

    If you want to do more than just adjust the volume or go to the next song: just tap to change the dimmed album art into the regular screen, as is the case presently when you are listening while charging. Next and volume up or down are fonctions used countless times when one listens to music. They should be ultra simple/easy to manage.

    These gestures should be optional, on or off. Don’t activateit if you don’t like it. But imagine how much easier it would be. And in the evening you avoid the screen unnecessarily lightening up when you lie in bed or you are sitting at the candle lit diner table inconspicuoulsy sending your lounge music via Bluetooth your the sound system.

    Finally, to those who call this device cheap for what it offers (not always delivers in my view): I think 500 euro is still a lot of money. I'll stick to this machine for the foreseeable future and learn to be happy with it.
     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2019
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  15. audiophilefan
    I'd have to agree with you on being not truly balanced. But I have to digress on my previous statement. The more I listen to it, the more I realize that what I'm getting is more detail. It isn't as smooth but switching back to the 3.5mm port feels like I was missing something. Could just be the extra power (a lot of it). But whatever it's doing, it's doing something right. Oh and if you can point me to a Shure SRH440 cable that's truly balanced, would appreciate it. Not 2.5 please. It really looks flimsy. 4.4 would be preferable (something that ships to Asia). Thanks a lot!

    P.S. My Grado doesn't have a detachable cable so there's that. :)
     
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