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FiiO M11-Android 7.0, 2.5/3.5/4.4 Powerful Output, Exynos 7872, Dual AK4493 DAC chips, 3GB RAM, WiFi, Two-way LDAC

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by FiiO, Mar 19, 2019.
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  1. cleg
    I’m glad you following my works so attentively. Next time read the original, then you don't have to repeat nonsense
     
  2. xkoo
    Cleg you shouldn't be bothered by this. You doing exelent job with your youtube chanel. Keep doing it, i enjoying every new video.
     
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  3. Jujoe
    I did read it and enjoyed it, was just a point of view like your review no offence was ment.

    Juj
     
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  4. gLer
    Oh yes! For that sort of money I’d get the custom version (A12t), sell the desktop rig and be done with the audio roundabout for good.
     
  5. abitdeef
    You will never be done with the audio roundabout. It's too powerful, too compelling.... mwaa ha ha ha!!
     
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  6. Jujoe
    Only thing stonger is a Audio blackhole I read.

    Juj
     
  7. gLer
    You do realise MQA is just an over-hyped marketing gimmick designed to make money without doing anything for sound quality? You also know it’s not a fully lossless format right? Stick to redbook or high-res flac and save yourself the headache. [Puts tin hat on...]
     
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  8. gLer
    Of course you’re right, I’m trying to talk sense to myself :p (although honestly my desktop rig is set in stone, has been for six months now without even a hint of needing or wanting anything more...let’s hope I can find the same peace with a mobile rig).
     
  9. abitdeef
    Well of course we want a comparison with dx220 it's a close competitor, even though it's more money and people have classified it as ibasso's 'flagship' which as good as all audio quality has become is marketing fluff imo.

    Also Chris is right about the dx220 getting compared to more expensive daps, some very expensive. So it would seem logical to compare them- dx220 and m11 and r6 pro etc. You review is spot on, I just don't think dx220 is a step up from m11, and if it is, it's stuff my ears or headphones can't pick up- not that there aren't differences as I preferred the sig of the m11. I mean really all these companies do a good job with audio, it's just different flavours, to me not big jumps in audio quality.

    The review was good and informative, but we all have our preferences and biases.

    Just a dude's 3 cents :wink:
     
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  10. abitdeef
    Oh and one more quick thing. When I get a new dap I of course listen to my favorites to see how it hits me. I always put on 'Turn to Stone' by ELO. And if my head starts moving and my foot starts tapping, I know it passes the mustard :wink:

    The mustard test.
     
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  11. gLer
    Actually I think that’s a fair assessment of some (not all) of your review - which is very comprehensive and well written by the way, especially since English isn’t your first language.

    I’m not sure why you won’t entertain comparing the M11 to the iBasso DX220, which at $900 is only $100 more expensive than the R6 Pro and $200 more expensive than the SR15, both of which you’re happy to compare to the M11 and in fact criticize compared to the M11.

    If the M11 comes very close to the DX220 sound (which it does) and matches or beats the DX220 in speed and UI (which it does) then I see no problem comparing the two, especially since the DX220 costs TWICE as much as the M11. That means for half the price you might (just might) sacrifice a few percentage points in treble and bass extension but actually get a faster, more fluid dap. How is that not a basis for comparison.

    Also, you can’t just say ‘ignore the UI and speed’ when comparing the M11 to the likes of the DX150, because UI and speed are very much integral to the experience and value of a dap. Otherwise you may as well just use a phone with digital out and a portable amp/dac.

    That FiiO is challenging the old way of thinking - that spending more always gets you more - is a good thing in my book. I hope the flagship FiiO daps poop all over the so-called industry heavyweights that have been charging way too much for far too long.

    PS. Nowhere in your review (and this isn’t just you - most reviewers do this) do you mention the IEM/headphone has a MUCH MUCH bigger impact on actual sound quality than the dap. An Andromeda or R1 Zenith on an M11 is going to make the M11 ‘sound better’ than a FiiO F9 or cheap no-name IEM on a DX220 or AK1000. That’s just fact. Also describing how a song sounds on the dap without specifying which IEM/headphone you used to get that sound is pointless. Again, not just you, so please don’t take that personally.
     
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  12. Ryokan
    Thought after listening through balanced connection I wouldn't be interested in SE, but been listening for a few hours now and not in a hurry to swop back. Player is cooler to so battery will probably last longer.
     
  13. gLer
    I don’t mean to be the grammar police, but the correct phrase is ‘passes muster’. Don’t ask me what that means tho! :p
     
  14. Jujoe
    1500's militry term I read.

    Juj
     
  15. gLer
    Just goes to show what fine margins we’re talking about here. SE vs Balanced, low vs high gain, 16/44.1 vs high-res. It all makes a difference but the difference is often subtle. Add a bunch of subtle differences together, though, and you do get easily audible (and worthwhile) differences. (Unless you’re @Sven2015 in which case BT is da bomb! - sorry Sven, couldn’t help myself, I’m just kidding of course).
     
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