FIIO 2025 New Product Schedule-From FIIO James

Mar 21, 2025 at 3:57 AM Post #106 of 189
⑩ Wired HiFi Earphones

We’ve discussed the current state of the earphone market earlier. Our perspective is that there's a bit of false prosperity. For one thing, the market continues to shrink. For another, due to the maturity of the supply chain and lower barriers to entry, there are more and more new brands and products.

This has led to a peculiar phenomenon: while the prices of low-end earphones are fiercely competitive, the number of earphones priced above thousands of USD has also increased significantly.

Coincidentally, these two price segments are not FIIO's strengths. Therefore, you may have noticed that FIIO has not released many earphones over the past year.

2025 will be the same. We will temporarily allocate our R&D resources to areas where the market supply and demand are not as saturated, avoiding excessive competition. This might be beneficial for both the industry and users. However, we still have some new products that will be gradually introduced. Here’s a brief overview.

1. FX17, 1DD 4 BA 8 EST Flagship IEMs
The FX17 has been in development for two years. For one thing, the tuning has been continuously optimized based on user feedback. For another, the exterior design has gone through several major revisions, which has been quite taxing for the engineers. The final design is decent, maintaining a simple and modern style, and incorporates FIIO's recent industrial design element, "Snow Mountain Arc."

In terms of configuration, the FX17 is almost maxed out with a titanium alloy shell, 26 drivers in total, a hybrid dynamic, balanced armature, and electrostatic driver setup, and high-end HiFi cables.

The planned release is in March. The price is on the higher side, but it offers great value compared to competing products with similar configurations.

2. High-End Single Dynamic Driver FD17
The FD17 and FX17 represent two extremes. The FD17 features the most classic single dynamic driver structure. It is still in design. We hope to incorporate more personality and innovation in its appearance while ensuring it aligns with popular aesthetics. This is challenging, but we are making progress and have some direction. As for sound quality, we are quite confident.

We aim to release the FD17 by October, with a price of around 600 USD.

3. Open Earbuds FF15
The FF15 is the successor to the FF5. Currently, there isn't much information to disclose. It is a regular upgrade.

Any suggestions and feedback would be appreciated.
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Mar 21, 2025 at 3:57 AM Post #107 of 189
⑪ Retro Series

The Retro Series was introduced by FIIO at the end of 2023. Currently, the retro products that have been released (excluding products with a retro appearance) include the cassette player CP13, CD player DM13, vinyl turntable TT13, and radio RR11, as well as the retro on-ear headphones WIND.

To be honest, these retro products are niche within a niche, with a limited market. After all, the wheels of time keep turning, and our usage habits and consumption habits cannot revert to the past.

FIIO's venture into retro products is partly driven by nostalgia and partly because it has indeed boosted FIIO's brand recognition. Moreover, we haven't made much profit from these products. For instance, the CP13 did generate some modest earnings, but we reinvested all of it into the molds for new mechanisms and motors.

In 2025, we still plan to continue with retro-style products.

1. Cassette Player CP15
The CP15 will feature an electronically controlled mechanism and a lossless motor, significantly reducing the size and thickness of the cassette player, while also greatly enhancing the user experience.

Currently, the supplier is still working on the mold. After the mold is completed, there will be a lot of debugging work, as well as small-batch trial production of the bare mechanism, among other tasks.

Since these tasks are handled by external collaborators, there are many uncontrollable risks. The ID also needs to be adjusted based on the final condition of the mechanism. Therefore, the appearance, progress, and cost are currently highly uncertain.

The most optimistic scenario is that it could be launched in November, with a price higher than the CP13 at around 150 USD.

2. CD Player DM11
The supply chain situation for CD players is slightly better, but there are not many mechanism options available. We are still in discussions with suppliers to see if there is an opportunity for FIIO to fund improvements.

The initial plan is to create a more affordable DM11, so the materials may not be as high-end as the aluminum alloy shell used in the DM13, and the audio configuration will also be lower-end.

The DM11 is tentatively planned for a year-end release, with the price to be determined, but it will be cheaper than the DM13.

3. CD Walkman DM15
The DM15 is positioned as a high-end CD player, primarily aimed at upgrading areas where users feel the DM13 could be improved, though this will also increase the cost.

The DM15 is also planned for a year-end release, with the price to be determined, but it will certainly be more expensive than the DM13.

We will ensure that the DM11, DM13, and DM15 are distinct in terms of product appearance, functionality, sound quality, and configuration. So, those who have purchased or are planning to purchase the DM13 need not worry, as the DM11 and DM15 will not be released in the short term.

4. Vinyl Turntable TT15
Generally, FIIO carefully considers its products and rarely follows trends. Therefore, we also plan to create a higher-end vinyl turntable.

The TT15 will feature a better cartridge and include designs such as adjustable stylus pressure to meet the needs of users who are already familiar with vinyl turntables.s

The overall appearance design of the TT15 will not differ much from the TT13.

5. Radio RR13
After the RR11 was unveiled, many users inquired about a radio with external speakers. Indeed, we are currently designing and debugging such a product, which features a modern appearance, significantly different from any existing radios with external speakers. It is not only compact but also offers excellent sound quality from its external speakers.

However, this design is quite bold, and we are unsure if it will align with public aesthetic preferences, especially since the public is accustomed to the traditional black boxy radio appearance.

The RR13 does not adopt any existing solutions from currently mass-produced models on the market, so the development and debugging workload is substantial. We aim to launch it by the end of the year, with a price significantly higher than the RR11.

There are no images for the retro products, mainly because the project risks are still quite high. If we were to release the appearance and then face delays, it would be problematic. We appreciate your understanding!
 
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Mar 21, 2025 at 4:44 AM Post #109 of 189
⑧ Bluetooth Headphones

To be honest, Bluetooth headphones dominate the personal audio market, including TWS (True Wireless Stereo), OWS (Open Wireless Stereo), and Bluetooth over-ear headphones, which, despite declining, still maintain strong sales.

However, FIIO has had a mixed track record in this field. It’s hard to pinpoint the exact reason—perhaps brand positioning, design, product features, distribution channels, or overall market strategy.

Fortunately, FIIO is stronger than ever. Since the market exists and we aren’t necessarily smarter than our competitors, our best approach is to stay focused and work hard.

That’s why in 2025, FIIO will continue investing in Bluetooth headphones, introducing new products in this category.

1. SNOWSKY Anytime – Retro Bluetooth On-Ear Headphones
SNOWSKY focuses on retro-inspired design, emphasizing style and aesthetics. Anytime is lightweight and compact, and folds into a small form factor, which is perfect for all-day portability. It features Active Noise Cancellation (ANC), and the price is user-friendly, which is ideal for commuting and travel, whether for music or watching videos.

The price is around 60 USD, and it is expected to launch before April. One of the attached pictures shows its exterior design. Anywhere is also part of FIIO’s "Snow Mountain Arc" series, characterized by a unique curved surface design.

The "Snow Mountain Arc" design will be featured in many of our products in 2025.

2. Anytime Mini – Bluetooth Retro Wooden On-Ear Headphones
This product is a Bluetooth version of the WIND series, incorporating retro aesthetics and a wooden cup design. Since it is designed as on-ear headphones with small-sized ear cups, the ANC function is unable to be fulfilled.

It can be regarded as the WIND version with Bluetooth. The price is around 40 USD, expected to launch in June.

3. EH11 – Bluetooth ANC Wooden Over-Ear Headphones
The EH11 is based on the FT1 but with Bluetooth and ANC functions, which guarantees great sound quality and extensive usage scenarios, and can also satisfy users in love with wooden ear cups. After all, a wooden cup design is a rare feature in Bluetooth over-ear headphones, helping FIIO stand out from competitors.

The FH11 is expected to launch in October, priced slightly higher than the FT1.

From the above introduction, you may notice that FIIO is intentionally avoiding direct competition in mainstream Bluetooth markets. Instead of fighting on price, brand reputation, or distribution, FIIO is carving out a niche with differentiated designs and features.

FIIO remains highly confident in sound quality and craftsmanship. Bluetooth and ANC technologies are now well-established, but their primary use case is outdoor listening. Given the environmental noise in outdoor settings, chasing lossless codecs like aptX Lossless in Bluetooth headphones is less meaningful, especially since Qualcomm’s QCC series chips are also costly, making such implementations less practical.

Therefore, FIIO is changing its Bluetooth headphone strategy based on lessons learned from our previous EH3NC. Initially, the EH3NC aimed to differentiate through advanced Bluetooth codecs, but the results showed that audiophiles weren’t interested in Bluetooth headphones, while ordinary consumers didn’t care about aptX HD or LDAC. This misalignment in product positioning led to market challenges.
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To be honest? What does it mean in your tongue? If fiio is "stronger than ever", then it should be no problem to answer a simple question: when are we going to get the Android update for M23 promised a long time ago ?
 
Mar 21, 2025 at 4:52 AM Post #110 of 189
⑩ Wired HiFi Earphones

We’ve discussed the current state of the earphone market earlier. Our perspective is that there's a bit of false prosperity. For one thing, the market continues to shrink. For another, due to the maturity of the supply chain and lower barriers to entry, there are more and more new brands and products.

This has led to a peculiar phenomenon: while the prices of low-end earphones are fiercely competitive, the number of earphones priced above thousands of USD has also increased significantly.

Coincidentally, these two price segments are not FIIO's strengths. Therefore, you may have noticed that FIIO has not released many earphones over the past year.

2025 will be the same. We will temporarily allocate our R&D resources to areas where the market supply and demand are not as saturated, avoiding excessive competition. This might be beneficial for both the industry and users. However, we still have some new products that will be gradually introduced. Here’s a brief overview.

1. FX17, 1DD 4 BA 8 EST Flagship IEMs
The FX17 has been in development for two years. For one thing, the tuning has been continuously optimized based on user feedback. For another, the exterior design has gone through several major revisions, which has been quite taxing for the engineers. The final design is decent, maintaining a simple and modern style, and incorporates FIIO's recent industrial design element, "Snow Mountain Arc."

In terms of configuration, the FX17 is almost maxed out with a titanium alloy shell, 26 drivers in total, a hybrid dynamic, balanced armature, and electrostatic driver setup, and high-end HiFi cables.

The planned release is in March. The price is on the higher side, but it offers great value compared to competing products with similar configurations.

2. High-End Single Dynamic Driver FD17
The FD17 and FX17 represent two extremes. The FD17 features the most classic single dynamic driver structure. It is still in design. We hope to incorporate more personality and innovation in its appearance while ensuring it aligns with popular aesthetics. This is challenging, but we are making progress and have some direction. As for sound quality, we are quite confident.

We aim to release the FD17 by October, with a price of around 600 USD.

3. Open Earbuds FF15
The FF15 is the successor to the FF5. Currently, there isn't much information to disclose. It is a regular upgrade.

Any suggestions and feedback would be appreciated.
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Thank you for making the FD17, it is EXACTLY what im waiting for.
I have the FD11 and its one of my favorite IEM's, super bassy, very Vshaped without piercing trebble. Then the FD15 didnt have that strong bass and warmth that only Single DD IEMS can have so it was a bit of a miss to me.

Hopefully the FD17 its similar to the FD11 but with better soundstage and a bit better fit.
 
Mar 21, 2025 at 4:53 AM Post #111 of 189
⑧ Bluetooth Headphones

3. EH11 – Bluetooth ANC Wooden Over-Ear Headphones
The EH11 is based on the FT1 but with Bluetooth and ANC functions, which guarantees great sound quality and extensive usage scenarios, and can also satisfy users in love with wooden ear cups. After all, a wooden cup design is a rare feature in Bluetooth over-ear headphones, helping FIIO stand out from competitors.

The FH11 is expected to launch in October, priced slightly higher than the FT1.



I'm looking forward to this great program in 2025 and will have my cash machine repaired.
Is the headset called the EH11 or FH11, or are they two different models?
 
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Mar 21, 2025 at 4:56 AM Post #112 of 189
read somewhere the EM5 as totl bud is canceled and you are planning for an FF5 mk2 or sth as new totl. pls pls pls use the EM5 driver, dont look back at the ff5, better try to orientate on the EM5 and maybe in some aspects on the OG FF3 and take a look at the earbud roundup thread! thank you!
 
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Mar 21, 2025 at 6:32 AM Post #113 of 189
Thanks for all the information on upcoming FiiO products! I really appreciate this communication strategy!
I studied the FiiO page and saw some changes at least on the english pages:
For the DAPs:
M17 and M23 - there is no more information about the Android version....
for
M15S, M11S - there is still Android 10 advertised. I will keep an eye on this...

Maybe we are getting closer to the release of Android 12 firmware for the Snapdragon 660 platform. :-) :-)
 
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Mar 21, 2025 at 6:41 AM Post #114 of 189
⑨ Speaker Series

Speakers were the foundation of FIIO. If we trace back in history, we’d have to go 20 years before FIIO was officially founded. However, as FIIO later focused entirely on personal audio devices, such as earphones and headphones, speaker development was put on hold.

Since the release of the SP3 in 2022, FIIO has returned to its roots—mainly to complement our existing product lineup. We sincerely appreciate the trust and recognition of our users. Many customers who purchased FIIO’s digital audio players and desktop DACs urged us to create powered speakers, so they wouldn’t have to buy third-party brands to complete their setups.

Meeting user demands and providing better system integration—this has always been FIIO’s core motivation for making speakers.

In 2025, FIIO plans to launch the SA1 active speaker, SP5 flagship bookshelf active speaker, Anywhere portable outdoor speaker, and a horn-loaded floorstanding speaker. Brief introductions are as follows.

1. FIIO SA1
This model has been showcased at many exhibitions and has received positive feedback from audiophiles. It features a mainstream wooden cabinet design, a classic two-way crossover, and a variety of connectivity options including Bluetooth, USB, coaxial, optical, and analog AUX-IN. With powerful output, it is very suitable for desktop use.

The SA1 is priced at around 150 USD and is expected to be launched in April.

2. FIIO SP5, Flagship Bookshelf Active Speaker
The SP5 follows the same exterior design as the SP3 and features an aluminum die-cast cabinet from the same supplier as Genelec. It is equipped with a larger 5.25-inch woofer, and its built-in amplifier has significantly higher power than the SP3.

Likewise, the SP5 offers a wide range of inputs, supporting Bluetooth, USB, coaxial, optical, analog AUX-IN, and infrared remote control.

Thanks to its increased power and larger drivers, the SP5 is suitable not only for near-field desktop music listening but also as bookshelf speakers for living rooms or dedicated listening rooms.

The SP5 is priced at around 700 USD and is expected to be launched in June. Apologies for the delay on this project. As a flagship product, we wanted to refine the sound quality and details as much as possible.

3. Anywhere – Portable Outdoor Bluetooth Speaker (Under the SNOWSKY Brand)
This is an all-in-one Bluetooth stereo speaker that can function as a standalone 2.0 stereo unit or be paired with another speaker to form a stereo system. It is primarily designed for outdoor use.

As an outdoor sports enthusiast myself, I have personally tested it. Whether hiking, cycling, or engaging in other activities, this speaker is incredibly convenient. After all, when exercising and sweating, wearing earphones isn’t always the best option.

Anywhere is expected to be launched in April at a surprisingly affordable price.

4. Horn-Loaded Floorstanding Speaker
This speaker belongs to the retro series, featuring many designs and sonic characteristics of the 1990s. It is mainly designed for living room setups. We aim to use tube amplifiers and horn-loaded speakers to recreate the sound characteristics of the analog era, offering distinct experiences when paired with vinyl or digital music sources.

The price of the horn-loaded floorstanding speaker will also be reasonable, though the release date is yet to be determined.

On a side note, speakers are a product that truly reflects the characteristics of the audio market. From use cases to applications, they can be segmented into hundreds or even thousands of niche markets.

This is also one of the few product types that we believe will remain largely unchanged in form for at least the next 100 years. As living standards improve, households will own more and more speakers. Eventually, every room (including the bathroom) should have at least one. Some will be function-focused, while others will be sound-quality-focused. Ultimately, as long as FIIO has the resources and capacity, we will strive to meet the diverse needs of our users.
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Would have loved balanced in for SP and SA series 🤔
 
Mar 21, 2025 at 10:53 AM Post #115 of 189
⑤ Desktop DAC and Headphone Amplifiers and Peripheral Products

In 2024, FIIO’s newly launched products such as the K19, K17, and K11R2R received great recognition. In 2025, FIIO will introduce even more distinctive, aesthetically pleasing, and powerful new products, including:

1. New Mid-range Desktop DAC/Amp K13 R2R
This product is priced at around 300 USD and is planned for release around June. From the model name, you can tell that it features FIIO’s self-developed R2R DAC circuit.

After the launch of K11 R2R, it gained widespread popularity, and many users requested a higher-end model based on R2R technology. The K13 R2R was developed to meet the demand for higher power output, more features, and more connectivity options. I believe this product will be as well-received as the previous K11 R2R.

2. New Mid-to-High-End Desktop DAC/Amp K15
Positioned between 400~550 USD, this model fills a gap in our product lineup to meet the needs of different user levels. It is expected to be launched around June.

The K15 adopts the same design and structure as the K17, but the main differences are that it uses a switching power supply, and a more cost-effective DAC chip, while removing the expensive ADI independent DSP chip.

3. High-End Desktop Bluetooth Receiver BR15
Currently, FIIO offers two desktop Bluetooth receivers, the entry-level BR13 and BTA30 PRO that was released years ago. As Bluetooth technology is advancing rapidly, we have planned a higher-end desktop Bluetooth receiver, BR15.

The BR15 will feature a display screen for an improved user experience and will utilize Qualcomm’s flagship QCC5181 chip, supporting aptX Lossless and other high-quality Bluetooth codecs.

The BR15 is expected to launch around October with an estimated price of around 200 USD. It will also support XLR balanced output, making it particularly suitable for adding lossless Bluetooth reception to desktop HiFi systems.

4. High-End Desktop Bluetooth Transmitter BT15
Unlike our previous plan, the BTA30 PRO is a combined transmitter and receiver, which means its built-in DAC is redundant for users who only need transmission. Therefore, we have planned a high-end desktop Bluetooth transmitter, helping users save on unnecessary costs.

The BT15 is also expected to launch around October, with a price of around 150 USD.

5. New R2R + Tube Amplified Balanced Output Pure DAC – WARMER
This is likely FIIO’s first product featuring vacuum tubes. It has a retro design with two large VU meters, giving it an extremely strong vintage aesthetic from the inside out.

If you have a particular preference for analog systems and the warm sound of vacuum tubes, this product is worth looking forward to. However, its sound signature is quite bold, and we are uncertain whether it will suit most users.

By the way, this product uses imported Czech vacuum tubes, with genuine high-voltage power supply and a classic circuit design, ensuring an authentic and traditional tube timbre.

6. New Linear Power Supply PL70
This product is a HiFi-grade, ultra-low-noise precision linear power supply, designed for FIIO devices with external power inputs. It has a rated output of 70W and is a significant upgrade over the PL50 in both performance and aesthetics, blending better with FIIO’s current product lineup.

It is compatible with FIIO’s K11, K11 R2R, K7, K13 R2R, K17, M17, M27, M15S, M25, etc. Of course, this product won’t have large sales volumes, as it primarily caters to our existing users’ needs.

In addition to the models mentioned above, if we have the energy and resources, we might also consider developing a genuine Class A headphone amplifier. The main reason is that truly authentic Class A headphone amplifiers are quite rare nowadays, and we suspect most consumers have never experienced one, making them easily misled by marketing buzzwords. Genuine Class A amplifiers, due to their low efficiency and significant heat generation, have high costs. They have actually fallen out of popularity since we entered the industry decades ago. However, "Class A" remains a term often exploited for marketing purposes. Therefore, we thought it would be interesting for FIIO to create one, to show everyone what a truly classic Class A headphone amplifier is really like.

As for currently available models such as the K5 PRO, K7, K11, K11 R2R, K19, PL50, and SR11, they will continue regular production and sales.

Attached is a rendering picture of the WARMER, which some users may have already seen in previous concept designs.
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I have a question about the K13 R2R is going to have Global PEQ? for years im waiting for DAC/AMP with the feature of EQ trough analog inputs, i have retro CD players that i want to connect using equalizer.
 
Mar 21, 2025 at 11:06 AM Post #116 of 189
I have a question about the K13 R2R is going to have Global PEQ? for years im waiting for DAC/AMP with the feature of EQ trough analog inputs, i have retro CD players that i want to connect using equalizer.
No Fiio device has physical Tone Controls yet. Only digital EQ.
The K17 has DSP ADI chip but the interface it to access it its through an app, and not like the RME ADI2.
The K13 being the upgrade to the K11, very likely wont have it and will have access to the simplified Fiio EQ app already available on the K9 K9Pro and others.
 
Mar 25, 2025 at 3:51 PM Post #119 of 189
⑪ Retro Series

The Retro Series was introduced by FIIO at the end of 2023. Currently, the retro products that have been released (excluding products with a retro appearance) include the cassette player CP13, CD player DM13, vinyl turntable TT13, and radio RR11, as well as the retro on-ear headphones WIND.

To be honest, these retro products are niche within a niche, with a limited market. After all, the wheels of time keep turning, and our usage habits and consumption habits cannot revert to the past.

FIIO's venture into retro products is partly driven by nostalgia and partly because it has indeed boosted FIIO's brand recognition. Moreover, we haven't made much profit from these products. For instance, the CP13 did generate some modest earnings, but we reinvested all of it into the molds for new mechanisms and motors.

In 2025, we still plan to continue with retro-style products.

1. Cassette Player CP15
The CP15 will feature an electronically controlled mechanism and a lossless motor, significantly reducing the size and thickness of the cassette player, while also greatly enhancing the user experience.

Currently, the supplier is still working on the mold. After the mold is completed, there will be a lot of debugging work, as well as small-batch trial production of the bare mechanism, among other tasks.

Since these tasks are handled by external collaborators, there are many uncontrollable risks. The ID also needs to be adjusted based on the final condition of the mechanism. Therefore, the appearance, progress, and cost are currently highly uncertain.

The most optimistic scenario is that it could be launched in November, with a price higher than the CP13 at around 150 USD.

2. CD Player DM11
The supply chain situation for CD players is slightly better, but there are not many mechanism options available. We are still in discussions with suppliers to see if there is an opportunity for FIIO to fund improvements.

The initial plan is to create a more affordable DM11, so the materials may not be as high-end as the aluminum alloy shell used in the DM13, and the audio configuration will also be lower-end.

The DM11 is tentatively planned for a year-end release, with the price to be determined, but it will be cheaper than the DM13.

3. CD Walkman DM15
The DM15 is positioned as a high-end CD player, primarily aimed at upgrading areas where users feel the DM13 could be improved, though this will also increase the cost.

The DM15 is also planned for a year-end release, with the price to be determined, but it will certainly be more expensive than the DM13.

We will ensure that the DM11, DM13, and DM15 are distinct in terms of product appearance, functionality, sound quality, and configuration. So, those who have purchased or are planning to purchase the DM13 need not worry, as the DM11 and DM15 will not be released in the short term.

4. Vinyl Turntable TT15
Generally, FIIO carefully considers its products and rarely follows trends. Therefore, we also plan to create a higher-end vinyl turntable.

The TT15 will feature a better cartridge and include designs such as adjustable stylus pressure to meet the needs of users who are already familiar with vinyl turntables.s

The overall appearance design of the TT15 will not differ much from the TT13.

5. Radio RR13
After the RR11 was unveiled, many users inquired about a radio with external speakers. Indeed, we are currently designing and debugging such a product, which features a modern appearance, significantly different from any existing radios with external speakers. It is not only compact but also offers excellent sound quality from its external speakers.

However, this design is quite bold, and we are unsure if it will align with public aesthetic preferences, especially since the public is accustomed to the traditional black boxy radio appearance.

The RR13 does not adopt any existing solutions from currently mass-produced models on the market, so the development and debugging workload is substantial. We aim to launch it by the end of the year, with a price significantly higher than the RR11.

There are no images for the retro products, mainly because the project risks are still quite high. If we were to release the appearance and then face delays, it would be problematic. We appreciate your understanding!
I own the DM13, even the sound is great the only thing i miss is the equalizer, may be implemented with firmware update?
I guess DM15 will allow to be managed with Fiio app and apply custom EQ.
 
Mar 26, 2025 at 6:01 PM Post #120 of 189
1. QX11 – FIIO’s First Portable USB dongle
In addition to FIIO’s patented desktop mode and external capsule battery, the QX11 will also feature a magnetic attachment for easier phone integration.

The QX11 is expected to launch in November, priced at around 150 USD.

2. QX13 – New Flagship USB dongle
Featuring a new DAC architecture, the QX13 will introduce a significant upgrade in user experience, with a never-before-seen design in the dongle market. Additionally, it will incorporate innovative casing materials to address common usability issues.

The QX13 is expected to launch in June, priced at around 300 USD.
Wait, how is the QX11 FIIO's first dongle if it launches much later than the QX13? :grin:
 

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