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Feliks-Audio EUFORIA - A Wolf in "Sheep's" Clothing...

Discussion in 'Headphone Amps (full-size)' started by hypnos1, Jan 9, 2017.
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  1. UntilThen
    Attmci all contacts are done and over. It is now a war of words. Scumbags dirtbags etc etc are flowing freely.

    The is a respond from the seller with pictures of my smashed up tube. I knew he would smash it up so he doesn't have to pay the cost. The tube was send back in the packaging it came. No way it would be so smashed up.

    Bottom line beware buying on ebay especially so called power sellers. Power my ass.
  2. UntilThen
    Perhaps I should consider a cheap Schiit Wyrd or Uptone Audio Regen Ember. :)
  3. attmci
  4. UntilThen
    Well justice is about to be done. Just received a message from ebay.

    Thank you for your answer regarding the return of the tube. I really appreciate your patience in such a situation.

    I would like to inform you that I have just reported your trading partner to our Security department. The specialists will investigate seller's account activity and take appropriate actions. Unfortunately I cannot give you more information about this process as it would be inconsistent with the eBay policies.

    I wish you all the best for your future transactions. Have a pleasant weekend.

    Bottom line is if you're unfairly treated by a seller, don't be afraid to keep firing emails at ebay. They will pay attention when they know you mean business.
  5. angpsi
    Hi UT, I'm really sorry about the trouble you got from Wege; we used to consider him a reputable seller, remember? Just taking this opportunity to say hi, activity in the Elise thread is kind of dead now that all of you guys migrated to Euforia. Personally I can't afford any upgrade whatsoever—I'm even questioning my capacity to have delved into that delirious EL buying spree in the first place, which also makes me question whether I might have been better off with an Espressivo as I originally intended!
  6. UntilThen
    Thanks angpsi but you don't have to feel sorry for me. UT can and will handle this. Life is not a bed of roses. Sometimes you have to deal with the thorns.

    As for Elise, you should have no remorse or think it's better that you had bought the Expressivo. My Elise is in Poland for a refresh. If I didn't think it's good enough to keep, I wouldn't be doing that. When it comes back, I'll be on Elise thread again and will kick start that thread.

    Regarding EL tubes, if you have tubes that works and are not noisy, then they do sound lovely. No regrets buying and using them. However both Elise and Euforia sounds lovely with standard 6sn7 and 6as7 tubes too and so they should. I have since stop being too obsessive about tubes. As most have found out, these FA amps sounds amazing with almost all tubes.

    If your setup sounds good to you, then don't feel pressured to upgrade. I have used my NAD d1050 for one and a half years. It's a gift from wife. If I had replaced that too soon, I'd be sleeping in the dog's house. Head-fi is not about how expensive your setup is. It's more about how much you enjoy your setup, be it budget, mid-range or Mercedes class.

    There you go. Hope you feel better now. :)
  7. angpsi
    Are you doing the parts upgrade coming from the updated version of the Elise? If yes, I'll definitely be on the lookout for your impressions.

    Truth be told, I'm still negotiating my way to settling. The Mullards were definitely a relieving moment towards the right direction, and have given me my moments of audio bliss (as the ELs have given most of you guys). Nowadays I'm debating whether—or how much—a different pair of headphones might turn the cards around. Unfortunately I don't see myself finding my way to finance for a pair of Beyer T1 or the HD800 any time soon. I've been looking into designs that are in the same tier with the HD600 but I'm not sure how most of the prominent challengers may synergise with the Elise. I wonder if you had any experience in this regard; through my own research, it looks like most people just opt for the HD650, only I'm really interested to also look for different sound signatures altogether (mid-tier Beyers maybe?).

    Finally there's the much discussed subject of DACs. So far I've been enjoying my Explorer 2 over USB, which is arguably better than the HiFimeDIY Sabre 9018 I used to play with. Haven't been able to test the Benchmark with the Elise because it involves moving the Elise to my home rig, which honestly is a bit of a pain. I wonder how / or whether the Schiit options may compare to the Explorer, but once again it becomes a question of lateral changes vs. upgrade.

    Same conclusion then: maybe one's final setup needn't be a Mercedes class rig, but the whole venture of settling sure requires an expensive education! :L3000:
    Last edited: May 12, 2017
  8. UntilThen
    Happy is the man who has a campervan and tours the countryside with it than the man who has a Mercedes and just keep it park in the garage. :)

    There are a few things you bring up there so I'll just address them one at a time.

    My Elise refresh is just to bring it back to as new condition as it was on day one. Lukasz ask if I wanted Euforia's tube sockets for it and I said no - please don't !! :) One amp with tight sockets is bad enough. Two will ruin my weekends forever. :) I also had channel imbalance so that will be taken care of. Plus the PCB board is a bit sun-tanned in colour. I want it back to caramel colour again.

    If you are on a budget, it's hard to beat HD600. However I'm more of a HD650 guy. Some say you don't hear the top end much with HD650. Well I don't need to hear all the trebly bits all the time. When I listen to Norah Jones, it's the mids I'm interested in. Mid range is king where vocals are concerned. If you're into classical, HD600 is a better choice. HD800 and T1 are when you want to hear more of everything and have the soundstage expanded beyond your ears. Headphones are very personal. That's why we have so many brands and models. Not everyone love the HD800 or T1. Some will bet their dog on the LCD2.2. So don't follow the trend. If an Apple earpad floats your boat, sing it. Ok that's taking it too far. You might get rocks thrown at you if you do that here in Head-Fi.

    As for DACs... well I think you do know that in any music system, the source and the final chain of headphones or speakers are equally, if not more important. So yeah, you will get better results with a more capable DAC or turntable but at what price? That only an individual can decide, according to their own budget and personal taste.

    Don't read too much into what's written. If possible, go to a Meet where you can sample various gear. Nothing like hearing for yourself. Except when you hear it from UT. :)

    Lastly, if you're already into Head-Fi, too bad you're already bitten by the bug. You itch to upgrade and hear better tone / equipment will be ongoing. But hey it's a good hobby. Where else would you spend your money on? On the race horse track? Or the casino? Or the pub? Or the ... ok won't go on. :)
  9. pctazhp
    I don't have experience with the Wyrd or Regen. Jitterbug is the only thing that goes between PC and DAC that I have tried, and I don't even remember why I decided to try the Jitterbug about a year ago. Initially I didn't like what it did, but a year later after my Elise had evolved to where it was (tube acquisitions) I tied it again and was quite impressed.

    Schiit doesn't claim any SQ improvement from Wyrd, but I guess a lot of people seem to think it helps. Things like Wyrd and Jitterbug still just deal with USB. I think both you and I would probably be better off using some kind of DDC or other device that would feed coax to our DACs. In my case with Bimby I would be limited to SPDIF input, but with Gumby you would have BNC input, which may be even better.

    I haven't done a lot of research on this subject, but do know it is not easy to find good information on it. I like Jitterbug because it is so cheap in comparison to any other device purportedly aimed at improving the data flow (a subject on which in the past I have expressed strong skepticism), and it does for me make a significant improvement - significant enough that I would hate to give it up at this point.

    But again, as with Schiit Multibit DACs on the FA threads in the past and Elise on the HD800S thread, I again find myself to be the lone voice calling in the wilderness here about Jitterbug.

  10. connieflyer
    Well noting like opening up the thread and finding you missed a page and a half, even though instant email notifications is on. Guess they are getting tired of me ragging on the unfinished software and making it harder for me to stay!
    @pctzahp here are a couple of tracks to test out the euforia with. The quality of her voice and announciation are great even if you don't care for the format. Also note the contrast between the St. Petersburg Choir and Lorena's voice.

  11. pctazhp
    I love Loreena, and you are right that these are great recordings to allow Euforia to show off. My viewpoint is Loreena far outclasses Paul Anka :beyersmile:
  12. pctazhp
  13. mordy
    Hi CF,

    In the past i read through this article as well as others about the Shuguang and Psvane tubes. IMHO there is a lot of hype and marketing in the production of these tubes. One article, written by the Canadian distributor which has a financial and vested interest in the production, claimed that the eBay sellers of these tubes who are selling them cheap are selling B stock.
    However, another article claimed that any tubes not up to spec are destroyed.
    Based on historical accounts of tube production, IMHO certain tubes from a production run may be selected for measuring better (for example the S versions of the C3g), but otherwise they are all the same. I have an old friend who is an A/V engineer, and he claimed that a 10% tolerance was acceptable in tube production. Some accounts state that the better measuring tubes were selected for military use and the rest for consumer use, but I don't know if this is true.
    I find it hard to believe that the same tube is being made with thicker glass and better quality internals, but it is easy to believe that the same tube comes packed and painted in different packaging and paint schemes to look more exclusive and expensive.

    Caveat emptor!
  14. Oskari

    Die Moldau Vltava
  15. UntilThen
    Who was playing Sukiyaki recently? Reminds me of my trip there in 2010. Wife and daughter will be going there again end of the month. I'll be home alone .... that's when I will get my multibit dac and hd800. Worth missing Japan for it. :ksc75smile:

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