Feliks Audio Elise Impressions Thread – a New Start (please read first post for summary)
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Here's a quote about Genalax 6AS7GA, which is supposedly the same as the holy grail bottle shaped GEC's
 

 
"Well, let’s talk Genalex now. This is considered to be the best of the best 6AS7G tubes, and it sure it, but…

The tube sounds very nice – sound signature is very similar to Mullard 6080, but a bit more air, a bit more details, but that is at the cost of warmth and lusciousness. As Nick stated in his review above – it’s clinical. I personally like warmth of Mullards and to me the tubes sounded great, but not my favorite. I compared it to Tung-Sol 5998 and WE 421A. Western Electric was a clear winner.

Still a lovely tube that is disappearing fast and will soon be a thing of the past."

Not sure as to why, but it says Western Electric 421A are a clear winner over the Genalex tubes similar to GEC's. And here they are for only around $100 / pair. Would this be recommended for the Elise? Several types avail. here, including 6336A which seems to be compatible with 5998

 

For my introduction to the GEC sound, I'll be getting these RCA 6AS7G tubes that are the 'dryer' American version, appearing very similar to the ultra rare ST-shaped GEC's, but for only $25



 
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[COLOR=000000]Not sure as to why, but it says Western Electric 421A are a clear winner over the Genalex tubes similar to GEC's. And here they are for only around $100 / pair. Would this be recommended for the Elise? Several types avail. here, including 6336A which seems to be compatible with 5998[/color]




 


Please open your eyes and see.

Cetron 6336A ≠ WE 421A.

Was the 6336A recommended for the Elise a couple of posts ago?

A real WE 421A will work fine.
 
Oct 3, 2016 at 6:11 PM Post #2,613 of 11,820

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  Chuckle chuckle chuckle. Will start a whole new trend pairing different power tubes. 
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 I can try it but I'm a symetrical guy. So I'm waiting on geetarman to sell me his for half the price.
 
That Chatham 6336A should not be used in Elise. It's 5A each. 2 of those would be 10A. That will turn your tube amp into a smoking Elise.

 
let's take this to pm so as not to sully this wonderful thread with our sleazy  
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deals ...  heheheh.
 
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Each 6336 A/B tube will need 5 amps...so two tubes you will need 10 amps.
 
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You can find out a tube's data by doing a search. such as '6336A tube data'. You'll find the voltage and current requirements. 
 
6336A will not work. WE421A will work in Elise.
 
Those Western Electric WE421A prices are crazy now. They are supposed to be the premium version of 5998 but are they?
 
Let's see what previous Head-fiers have to say about them.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/506133/visual-evidence-tung-sol-5998-western-electric-421
 
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& as previously mentioned, 10A = elise is smokin'  (& not good smoke either).
 
fyi:   we421a:  long discourse, read it all ---  http://www.head-fi.org/t/506133/visual-evidence-tung-sol-5998-western-electric-421
 
<edit>  oops, UT beat me to it ... again.
 
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You have to be very careful when using ebay, things happen unexpectedly....
 

 
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Looking through my tubes, found a pair I had not tried yet. @UntilThen sent me a pair of RCA 6n7's along with the Joy bringers and I had not tried the rca.  Paired these with the 5998's and I am quite impressed. A nice full, well balanced sound. A very open, detailed sound, the sound stage is quite good as well.  The El3n 6 pack has been my go to set, but these are very enjoyable. I will let these settle in for awhile, but I am quite pleased.
 
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CF, they are the RCA 6N7GT. Brand new except for a few hours of play while trying it out. A picture taken when I had them. Enjoy. :)
 

 
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  You can find out a tube's data by doing a search. such as '6336A tube data'. You'll find the voltage and current requirements. 
 
6336A will not work. WE421A will work in Elise.
 
Those Western Electric WE421A prices are crazy now. They are supposed to be the premium version of 5998 but are they?
 
Let's see what previous Head-fiers have to say about them.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/506133/visual-evidence-tung-sol-5998-western-electric-421

Well that certainly cleared up everything 
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You know, I have the same pair!!!  They now have more than a few hours on them!  And as ordered I am enjoying them.  It brings a new sublty to 50's and 60's music!  Speaking of which, after 5 hours under these cans, I think I may need THE can!  Two more cuts and then take the dog out and back at till sleep take over.  This a very good combo, glad I remembered I had them.  Had used the Visseau before and really liked them as well. But these RCA's and 5998's are really taking the music to a new level. Before I stopped using my turntables, I recorded most of my 45's to analog tape 15 ips, and later transferred it to digital before selling all the tape equipment and the recordings sound quite good for what they are. Thanks again UT, have gotten a lot of enjoyment from the tubes you sent. Much appreciated.
 
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  CF, they are the RCA 6N7GT. Brand new except for a few hours of play while trying it out. A picture taken when I had them. Enjoy. :)
 
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@connieflyer  You're most welcome. I should thank you for your lovely LPs.
 
This just arrived. Says designed and engineered in USA. 
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 Now I have to assemble it.
 

 

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