Eversolo DMP-A6 Network Streamer/DAC
Oct 30, 2024 at 10:17 AM Post #1,007 of 1,146
In that case, you would be adjusting digital volume and deal with resolution loss, is that right?
?? What resolution loss?
Volume bypass on Eversolo (USB) to Cyan 2 and adjusting volume on my amp. There is no 'resolution loss' I have to 'deal with'.
I don't deal with resolution loss very well. :) :)

Edit: The only scenario for signal degradation is when you use the EverSolo as a DAC via digital out and volume on the EverSolo is not maxed out. As I said, I don't use the EverSolo's DAC but I am completely bypassing its whole volume stage in 'streamer only' mode.
 
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Oct 30, 2024 at 10:37 AM Post #1,008 of 1,146
?? What resolution loss?
Volume bypass on Eversolo (USB) to Cyan 2 and adjusting volume on my amp. There is no 'resolution loss' I have to 'deal with'.
I don't deal with resolution loss very well.
I misrepresented my thought. I was referring to a hypothetical in my previous post. You bypass the volume in the settings and thus send a bit-perfect digital signal to the Cyan. Had you not toggled the setting, your signal would lose resolution (less than bit perfect) if lowering the volume at all from max, is that right? The idea I’m trying to find a definitive answer to is that if not using an external dac and outputting via analog outputs (xlr), I would not have to worry about losing resolution.
 
Oct 30, 2024 at 11:16 AM Post #1,010 of 1,146
Tried it briefly out of curiosity, but I don't use EverSolo as a DAC, just it's streamer into my Cyan 2.
Hi betula,
I am sorry if what I ask will make you to repeat. I just got the CYAN 2. No it is tempering itself for 24 hours and I will start breaking it and listening after tomorrow. It is a dac w/o volume control and usually with this dacs I max up the volume of the Eversolo A6 to 95% and after that use the amp to set the right volume for me. But, you know, some songs need more volume some less, if you switch different files or Tidal artists/albums you need slight adjustments of volume. So, now, the question: Is it better to bypass the music thru Eversolo A6 fully and use only the amp? If yes: How were the settings for that that you recommended? ( I saw you did but it was a while ago and I cannot find it in History browsing back thru posts).
Thank you in advance for your guidance :wink:
 
Oct 30, 2024 at 11:26 AM Post #1,011 of 1,146
Hi betula,
I am sorry if what I ask will make you to repeat. I just got the CYAN 2. No it is tempering itself for 24 hours and I will start breaking it and listening after tomorrow. It is a dac w/o volume control and usually with this dacs I max up the volume of the Eversolo A6 to 95% and after that use the amp to set the right volume for me. But, you know, some songs need more volume some less, if you switch different files or Tidal artists/albums you need slight adjustments of volume. So, now, the question: Is it better to bypass the music thru Eversolo A6 fully and use only the amp? If yes: How were the settings for that that you recommended? ( I saw you did but it was a while ago and I cannot find it in History browsing back thru posts).
Thank you in advance for your guidance :wink:
Yes, if you use digital output, bypass mode is better. This way you only adjust volume on your amp and always get the highest quality signal from the A6. I think it is called 'volume passthrough mode' under the audio menu.
 
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Oct 30, 2024 at 12:08 PM Post #1,013 of 1,146
Yes, if you use digital output, bypass mode is better. This way you only adjust volume on your amp and always get the highest quality signal from the A6. I think it is called 'volume passthrough mode' under the audio menu.
I think its also better to bypass it when using the analogue output to sound the best. His integrated amp probably have better volume solution to work with the most pure signal.

Do A-B if you can back and forth lots of times.

Thats why high quality separates is often thought of the way to go for high end hifi

Streamer - Pure Dac - Dedicated preamp - Poweramp. Not for concenience though as an all in one.

Thats why these products exist.
To name a few. I have gotten more interested in dedicated preamps recently since how i heard Soundnews review of Gustard X-30 saying how much better his dedicated preamp sounds then using the Dacs own volume control and just set it to fixed. Also personaly i need them for concenience with remote controlled volume. If the Dac lacks one. I wouldent care much about them if i set next to my Headphone integrated amp and dident need a remote to control the volume.

https://magnahifi.com/holo-audio-serene-kte-kitsune-balanced-discrete-pre-amplifier/

https://spl.audio/en/spl-produkt/elector/

https://hattor.com/product/dualmono/

https://shenzhenaudio.com/products/musetec-mh-sa001-preamplifier
 
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Oct 30, 2024 at 1:48 PM Post #1,014 of 1,146
I think its also better to bypass it when using the analogue output to sound the best. His integrated amp probably have better volume solution to work with the most pure signal.

Do A-B if you can back and forth lots of times.

Thats why high quality separates is often thought of the way to go for high end hifi

Streamer - Pure Dac - Dedicated preamp - Poweramp. Not for concenience though as an all in one.

Thats why these products exist.
To name a few. I have gotten more interested in dedicated preamps recently since how i heard Soundnews review of Gustard X-30 saying how much better his dedicated preamp sounds then using the Dacs own volume control and just set it to fixed. Also personaly i need them for concenience with remote controlled volume. If the Dac lacks one. I wouldent care much about them if i set next to my Headphone integrated amp and dident need a remote to control the volume.

https://magnahifi.com/holo-audio-serene-kte-kitsune-balanced-discrete-pre-amplifier/

https://spl.audio/en/spl-produkt/elector/

https://hattor.com/product/dualmono/

https://shenzhenaudio.com/products/musetec-mh-sa001-preamplifier
I do not use A6 as a dac, only as a streamer to TT2, iFi iDSD Pro, RME, and now eventually to CYAN 2.
 
Oct 30, 2024 at 4:39 PM Post #1,015 of 1,146
I do not use A6 as a dac, only as a streamer to TT2, iFi iDSD Pro, RME, and now eventually to CYAN 2.
Nice gear. TT2 was told though to behave excellent as a Preamp. I have Hugo2 and i agree with that pre being great direct to Poweramp. I am going to try today Hugo2 RCA into Rotel RC-1590 MKII and then XLR into Ferrum Oor/Hypsos in Poweramp mode to see if it can improve on an already good preamp solution. Of course with DMP A6 ME doing streaming duty.

I am intrested in how Cyan 2 will compare to TT2 if its even close?
 
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Oct 30, 2024 at 5:38 PM Post #1,016 of 1,146
Nice gear. TT2 was told though to behave excellent as a Preamp. I have Hugo2 and i agree with that pre being great direct to Poweramp. I am going to try today Hugo2 RCA into Rotel RC-1590 MKII and then XLR into Ferrum Oor/Hypsos in Poweramp mode to see if it can improve on an already good preamp solution. Of course with DMP A6 ME doing streaming duty.

I am intrested in how Cyan 2 will compare to TT2 if its even close?
Yep, I use TT2 only as a dac. All amplification is done by the amp (it is Burson Soloist 3XP V7 vivid or Feliks Echo 2 for headpnobes or Topping LA90 D and SMSL A1 for speakers) and it works supremely for me.
After testing Metrum NOS Mini Octave for headpnones, I decided to jump on CYAN 2. Still in testing and comparison. But I will come back with experience for rhe CYAN 2 (USB to A6 and I2S to Aune S10N).
 
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Oct 30, 2024 at 6:41 PM Post #1,017 of 1,146
After listening i still think Hugo2 benefits from dedicated preamp. Its like an unfolder of the analogue signal similar to what MQA wanted to do with digital i guess.

I think it sounds more Grander and bigger and more natural with more resolution and better separation. More musical and effortless.
 
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Nov 1, 2024 at 7:33 PM Post #1,018 of 1,146
But know when Preamp is sent back and i listen to Hugo2 direct to Ferrum Oor/Hypsos in Poweramp mode its more transparent and cleaner.I prefer this sound with more nuanced bass for exe. And without the background hiss Rotel had.

But maybe the right preamp would better it. I think DMP A6 ME internal Dac benefited more with dedicated preamp. As i think Hugo2 already has an excellent preamp obviously to my ears.
 
Nov 14, 2024 at 2:36 AM Post #1,020 of 1,146
Have anyone compared what streaming service sounds best on Dmp A6?

Can you listen to the Dolby Atmos mixes from apple music or tidal?
 

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