[jamato8]

It has now set for me. The curve has been documented and studied and agreed that it is the universal solution for the ultimate sound signature.

The problem is that people haven't heard the Curve in its ultimate form. The perfected curve.

I have and that's why I am now preaching on it like a mad man who heard the Sony MDR R10 for the first time.

What then is the ultimate form?

 

[protoss]

What then is the ultimate form?

Can't verbally explain unless you hear the HC headphones I found that follows the curve but does it right (will not disclose these headphones, im collecting them). If you do it wrong, HC sounds boring and mellow. Dan Clark is trying to figure this out with the stealth as we speak but his headphone is still shy from being right.

The sound must be purity in musicality without any abnormalities and spikes. No bleeds, no deficit in any frequency, with the perfect blend when the sound is call to.
It is tough, overall.

 

[jamato8]

Can't verbally explain unless you hear the HC headphones I found that follows the curve but does it right (will not disclose these headphones, im collecting them). If you do it wrong, HC sounds boring and mellow. Dan Clark is trying to figure this out with the stealth as we speak but his headphone is still shy from being right.

The sound must be purity in musicality without any abnormalities and spikes. No bleeds, no deficit in any frequency, with the perfect blend when the sound is call to.
It is tough, overall.

Ok but it doesn't help to understand then what you project as the "right" sound. Not asking for some explanation but I guess what you think gets you there.

 

[protoss]

Ok but it doesn't help to understand then what you project as the "right" sound. Not asking for some explanation but I guess what you think gets you there.

Agree. You must hear it yourself and agree.
But I personally found it. It beats the Sony and HE90 and the rest.

 

[jamato8]

Agree. You must hear it yourself and agree.
But I personally found it. It beats the Sony and HE90 and the rest.

And other equipment besides the headphones does not play into this?

 

[protoss]

And other equipment besides the headphones does not play into this?

You asking great questions

Yes, gear plays a role. Harman Curve ultimately sounds boring. If you can't fix the headphone itself which is extremely hard to do you must rely on other gear.

I haven't found the ultimate HC headphone mind you but close enough. With 300B tubes I am able to inject certain frequencies that brings out that sound I discover. This is why HE90, HE1 and T2 gear are endgame for people because it brings them closer to that ultimate sound signature.

If the frequency is perfect (Harman Curve), its boring. Add distortion aka tubes into the mix and the sound becomes more appropriate to the user and now it becomes musical and perfect.

 

[jamato8]

You asking great questions

Yes, gear plays a role. Harman Curve ultimately sounds boring. If you can't fix the headphone itself which is extremely hard to do you must rely on other gear.

I haven't found the ultimate HC headphone mind you but close enough. With 300B tubes I am able to inject certain frequencies that brings out that sound I discover. This is why HE90, HE1 and T2 gear are endgame for people because it brings them closer to that ultimate sound signature.

If the frequency is perfect (Harman Curve), its boring. Add distortion aka tubes into the mix and the sound becomes more appropriate to the user and now it becomes musical and perfect.

Then why use a curve and not adjust to the hearing. I mean, using the HC and then having to bolster is, is a contradiction of values.

 

[protoss]

Then why use a curve and not adjust to the hearing. I mean, using the HC and then having to bolster is, is a contradiction of values.

Harman Curve fix everything technically.
R10 has issues.
HE90 has issues.
HD800 has issues.
009 has issues.
Every headphone has issues. Harman Curve sets the baseline of the perfect baseline. Follow it, and fix the lacking issue.

 

[Sebbai]

What the h** is HC headphone

Ahh: Harman Curve

 

[protoss]

What the h** is HC headphone

Ahh: Harman Curve

https://headphonesaddict.com/harman-curve/

 

[jamato8]

Harman Curve fix everything technically.
R10 has issues.
HE90 has issues.
HD800 has issues.
009 has issues.
Every headphone has issues. Harman Curve sets the baseline of the perfect baseline. Follow it, and fix the lacking issue.

And then the source, wires, and amp, through the curve off. Either for the better or the worse.

What are you using to determine the curve?

 

[mulveling]

https://headphonesaddict.com/harman-curve/

lol just browsing through some Inner-Fidelity headphone measurements of the usual suspects, almost everything seems to be sliding or dipping where the Harman Curve shows its peak around 3 KHz.

 

[zomkung]

Agree. You must hear it yourself and agree.
But I personally found it. It beats the Sony and HE90 and the rest.

I'm not sure, you said you found it... Which headphone?

Buying many headphones but still cannot find it. This lacks that and that. A bit of that.


The HC is pretty boring, I agree.

 

[protoss]

No headphones has gotten the curve correct. Some come close, I'm using a few atm. Pic down below is a representation of the curve. The blue dotted line is the curve, having the best bass and the perfect baseline to topend and drop.

All headphones are trash in the bass regions. The curve literally tells us we need bass but all headphones can't do it. And if they do, they suffer in the midrange, treble and cause crazy wonky distortion spikes.

Harman Curve literally tells us, universally everyone wants bass and more of it but can headphones do it? Sony R10 sucks at it, HE90 sucks at it. HD800 from the picture is horrible.

The HD650 comes close to Harman Curve. This is why universally the HD650 is beloved and adored. The ones who do not like it, wants bass and consider it boring aka "boring Harman Curve."

The story doesn't end with Harman Curve being boring. I proposed a few pages back how to fix it and create that ultimate sound. But its extremely hard. The secret headphones I'm using (won't disclose) has the best bass, midrange and smooth treble. Almost perfect

People will get mad at this pic down below, but it's amazing.

Abyss TC
Harman Curve vs Abyss TC

This graph literally shows bass in Abyss. Majority of people raves the bass on the TC. I wonder why? Is it because its close to the Harman "perfected" Curve? Yes, that's why.

The rest of the pic... look away

 

[jamato8]

No headphones has gotten the curve correct. Some come close, I'm using a few atm. Pic down below is a representation of the curve. The blue dotted line is the curve, having the best bass and the perfect baseline to topend and drop.

All headphones are trash in the bass regions. The curve literally tells us we need bass but all headphones can't do it. And if they do, they suffer in the midrange, treble and cause crazy wonky distortion spikes.

Harman Curve literally tells us, universally everyone wants bass and more of it but can headphones do it? Sony R10 sucks at it, HE90 sucks at it. HD800 from the picture is horrible.

The HD650 comes close to Harman Curve. This is why universally the HD650 is beloved and adored. The ones who do not like it, wants bass and consider it boring aka "boring Harman Curve."

The story doesn't end with Harman Curve being boring. I proposed a few pages back how to fix it and create that ultimate sound. But its extremely hard. The secret headphones I'm using (won't disclose) has the best bass, midrange and smooth treble. Almost perfect



People will get mad at this pic down below, but it's amazing.

Abyss TC
Harman Curve vs Abyss TC

This graph literally shows bass in Abyss. Majority of people raves the bass on the TC. I wonder why? Is it because its close to the Harman "perfected" Curve? Yes, that's why.

The rest of the pic... look away

How does the Denon 9200 do on the curve?