er4s vs er4b

Dec 11, 2007 at 9:30 AM Post #2 of 7
Hi

the 4b isn't very common and is designed for binaural music.

Normally the choice is between the 4s and the 4p. Both are great for classical music. The 4s is better with amplification and the 4p without.

But you can get an adaptor that turns the 4p into a 4s and get the best of both worlds.

You can check out the Etymotic site here.

martin
 
Dec 11, 2007 at 9:02 PM Post #3 of 7
I doubt you'll get many responses about the B's. They're not nearly as popular as the P's and S's in the Ety line. I realize they're marketed for "binaural" recordings; however, they work extemely well with regular, everyday recordings.

Before I purchased mine, I read a thread by, I believe "Vertigo 1" or something like that. That particular head-fi'er was very impressed with the B's. I also read somewhere (don't recall where) that stated that when Ety made the 4B's, they didn't make them to compensate for anything. As I understand it the others in their lineup compensate certain frequency ranges for how the music coming in interacts with the ear canal (or something like that) and that the other models also make "not so great" recordings sound at least listenable, whereas with the B's, you get exactly what is on the recording; nothing more and nothing less.

So what does all this blah, blah, blah mean?

In my experience, comparing my 4B's to a 4P w/P to S cable, I find the B's to offer even more of the crystal clear higher frequencies Ety is known for. I find that initially, the 4B's will sound almost lacking in the lower frequencies, but once my ears get used to the sound, everying clicks into place. I feel the 4B's are superior to the others in the line by a far shot. Take all the postive attributes used when others have described the sound of the 4S's and take it up a notch or two.

I listen to mine through a tubed headamp so if you've got a brighter sounding system, either source or amp, the higher frequencies might be a bit much. With the right combo, the Ety 4B's will provide sound that can truly be called "reference" quality.

I'll listen to the 4B's at home even though I've got several of the higher end circumaural headphones at my disposal. Are they good? Hell, yeah, they're good.

Ciao,
 
Dec 11, 2007 at 9:31 PM Post #4 of 7
I have owned both the Ss and the Bs. The ER4Bs are mildly brighter in the 10kHz area. That is all. It sounds good with some music. On most music, it makes that particular frrequency region sound just a little too bright. Not painfully bright. Just "out of place" bright.
 
Dec 11, 2007 at 9:38 PM Post #5 of 7
i dont understand why they say it is for binaural recordings, clearly on the site the marked diffference is they don't apply the loudspeaker room-equalized response to compensate which is what most recordings have built in.

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ok well i guess i do understand, but they should've used a different name because it is slightly misleading. the compensation for recordings that compenate for loudspeakers, while binaural recordings probably won't compensate for those things. but really all it is is brighter not taking into account that graph.

so i guess that is to say, on our normal phones, when listening to binaural or recordings that don't compensate , they will sound somewhat dull in that area.
 
Mar 24, 2010 at 12:46 PM Post #6 of 7
I'm using Er4s for my classical and jazz
I think er4s is best for you
 
Mar 24, 2010 at 5:04 PM Post #7 of 7
With conventional recordings the 4B has a high-frequency emphasis in the very high frequencies, which makes things like cymbal strikes and the rattle of beans inside maracas stand out very sharply. While this can add a sort of intriguing presence a performance, I found it overall very distracting. It made me listen to bits of instruments at the expense of listening to the music. I am much happier with the 4S, for classical or for anything else, than with the 4B.
 

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