Eastsound CD-5 Did I Make A Mistake When I Tried this Out?

[tourmaline]

Have pc with soundcard wich can do 5.1 or 7.1? try to play a cd and upsample it with cmss 3d. It sounds really bad. Use a dedicated 5.1 mix and it sounds great! Using algorythms for upsampling is never gonna be as good as a good 5.1 mix. So, for stereo use a good stereo-source and for 5.1 use a good dvdplayer with dedicated 5.1 dvd's! just that simple!

 

[JaGWiRE]

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Originally Posted by tourmaline Have pc with soundcard wich can do 5.1 or 7.1? try to play a cd and upsample it with cmss 3d. It sounds really bad. Use a dedicated 5.1 mix and it sounds great! Using algorythms for upsampling is never gonna be as good as a good 5.1 mix. So, for stereo use a good stereo-source and for 5.1 use a good dvdplayer with dedicated 5.1 dvd's! just that simple!

Totally, couldn't agree more. Cmss-3d sucks. If you want 5.1, get 5.1 sources, I can't personally believe in DSPS because like I said, rear sounds should be outputted to the rear speakers, and I believe only a human can master the tracks to that.

 

[mtan002]

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Originally Posted by Hershon2000 1. When you plug your CD player directly into a 5.1 A/V Receiver by analog (RCA) connections: A. If you play it on the 2 front channel & a sub mode, you are using the CD players DAC & the sound is not being reprocessed. B. If you play it on the 5 channel all natural sound mode, you say I think you are not using the CD players DAC but the receivers DAC & the sound on the left & right front speakers are being reprocessed & not producing the same output for the front speakers that are produced in the back speakers.

I have a Denon 1802 AV receiver connected to a cheap Pioneer universal player. The Pioneer is connected in two ways: optical out to digital input and RCA cable to the CD input on the AV receiver. To hear the original sound from the Pioneer, the best thing I can do is:

1. Select CD as source
2. Set input mode to analog
3. Set play mode to stereo (not ProLogic, 2.1 ...)

I dont use this system for serious music listening. It's an AV system for DVD movies and SACD and DVD-A. I find listening music to 2 channels only is a lot more realistic and sustainable. With multi-channels, I get fatigue.

 

[Hershon2000]

Your entitled to your opinons & preferences but one thing I'm sensing from alot of these posts is that a bunch of you haven't even tried listening to CD's in 5.1 Natural sound which is not Pro Logic, via digital connection to your CD player, just because it seems to be an upfront to the purist in you. I'd recommend you give it a try for all of 15 minutes & if you still don't like it, then you don't like it.
I gave listening to CDs in a 2 channel & sub try a listen & it doesn't make it for me. Again we're not talking DVD-A's or SACDs, just regular 2 channel recordings. Its not heresy I tell you. You might be astonished with what you hear in a good way. Anyway, each to their own.

 

[ODG]

2 channel cd's mixed by the receiver to 5.1 is not natural. In real life music is heard in front of you, not coming from behind. You might enjoy it but it's unrealistic. 5.1 mostly designed for DVD movies and tries to create that in theatre experience. Music CD's are 2 channels for the same reason in which performances are heard in front. Receivers have DSP's and upsampling ,32 bit... on and on are designed to mess with the original source and create a fake 3D sound but its not true to the original.
There is 2 schools of design, more simple system is better 2.0 VS adding more is better 5.1, 6.1,7.1,8.1, etc.
A good 2 channel system can have 3D sound also. HT Receivers can be used to fake it with multi speakers but has to spit the signal and losses quality original source.

 

[Hershon2000]

If man was meant to fly, he would have had wings!

 

[JaGWiRE]

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Originally Posted by ODG 2 channel cd's mixed by the receiver to 5.1 is not natural. In real life music is heard in front of you, not coming from behind. You might enjoy it but it's unrealistic. 5.1 mostly designed for DVD movies and tries to create that in theatre experience. Music CD's are 2 channels for the same reason in which performances are heard in front. Receivers have DSP's and upsampling ,32 bit... on and on are designed to mess with the original source and create a fake 3D sound but its not true to the original. There is 2 schools of design, more simple system is better 2.0 VS adding more is better 5.1, 6.1,7.1,8.1, etc. A good 2 channel system can have 3D sound also. HT Receivers can be used to fake it with multi speakers but has to spit the signal and losses quality original source.

True, hehe.

 

[ODG]

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Originally Posted by Hershon2000 If man was meant to fly, he would have had wings!

Planes fly, people still can't.