[nymz]

I bought the Smabat M2s based on all the impressions here. I’m hoping it will be a good upgrade/sidegrade to the VE Zen!

Is there any significant advantage to getting the different drivers for the M2s? I was considering getting the 150 ohm titanium driver, but not sure which the best one is for this earbud.

To me, its not an upgrade to zen 2.0, not sure about Zen. For me, Zen 2.0 has more detail and stage. M2S has better bass quantity, is more phone, easier to drive, better confort and lets you replace your cables/drivers. They get closer to eachother, according to my ears, if I use the 150ohm over ear.

If you like zen signature, I'll strongly recommend the 150ohm driver vs the stock one.

 

[DivineCurrent]

To me, its not an upgrade to zen 2.0, not sure about Zen. For me, Zen 2.0 has more detail and stage. M2S has better bass quantity, is more phone, easier to drive, better confort and lets you replace your cables/drivers. They get closer to eachother, according to my ears, if I use the 150ohm over ear.

If you like zen signature, I'll strongly recommend the 150ohm driver vs the stock one.

I have the Zen 2.0, hoping the M2s will be a little brighter because that is my main complaint about the Zen 2.0. It is a little too recessed in the treble for me. But I agree it's got great staging and detail. I'll try the 150 ohm driver, thanks for the suggestion.

 

[nymz]

I have the Zen 2.0, hoping the M2s will be a little brighter because that is my main complaint about the Zen 2.0. It is a little too recessed in the treble for me. But I agree it's got great staging and detail. I'll try the 150 ohm driver, thanks for the suggestion.

What source are you using on Zen, by the way?

I love M2S Pro, don't get me wrong. If I could only have one of the two, I'd probably choose M2S Pro since it's cheaper, better built and easier to drive...

... Or LBBS

 

[DivineCurrent]

What source are you using on Zen, by the way?

I love M2S Pro, don't get me wrong. If I could only have one of the two, I'd probably choose M2S Pro since it's cheaper, better built and easier to drive...

... Or LBBS

E1DA 9038D or LG V40 for mobile, and RME ADI-2 DAC for desktop. I decided to get the single ended 3.5 Zen for more compatibility, I’m getting plenty of power from both sources.

How does the LBBS compare?

 

[rprodrigues]

Kindly report back here after you test it with the adapter. I'm still curious if it works or not. Finally pulled the trigger with the Iris 2.0 and K64S. Hope they sound good with what I have. Currently rocking the Seahf AWK F150c attached to my Pixel 4A 5G via the CX-Pro 31993 playing Tidal Master thru UPP. The Ovidius B1 is coming so I'm very excited to hear what they can offer.

As promised...
I've been using my SL 2.5mm for over 2 hours with no issues with adapters (4.4mm to 2.5mm and 3.5mm to 2.5mm) on my Fiio Q3.

 

[fonkepala]

Thinking of splurging on the Zen 2.0. Does it really only 'sing' using VE's amps? I have the Zen DAC, Mojo, Xduoo MT602+Khadas Tone Board 1, Stoner Acoustics UD130, Shanling UA2, Hidizs S9 Pro as well as the Qudelix. Will these be able to drive the Zen 2.0 properly?

 

[DBaldock9]

Thinking of splurging on the Zen 2.0. Does it really only 'sing' using VE's amps? I have the Zen DAC, Mojo, Xduoo MT602+Khadas Tone Board 1, Stoner Acoustics UD130, Shanling UA2, Hidizs S9 Pro as well as the Qudelix. Will these be able to drive the Zen 2.0 properly?

Those amps should drive the Zen 2.0, and provide a satisfying sound quality, as well.

 

[fonkepala]

Those amps should drive the Zen 2.0, and provide a satisfying sound quality, as well.

Thanks much, sir.

 

[nymz]

E1DA 9038D or LG V40 for mobile, and RME ADI-2 DAC for desktop. I decided to get the single ended 3.5 Zen for more compatibility, I’m getting plenty of power from both sources.

How does the LBBS compare?

Does the Zen play well from lg v40? To me they seem to seem to feed on power. I feel that my M3X/btr5 is not enough (not volume wise tho). They seem to be tuned for VE amps. My RAP5 is arriving, hope to be able to try it soon

 

[emusic13]

Thinking of splurging on the Zen 2.0. Does it really only 'sing' using VE's amps? I have the Zen DAC, Mojo, Xduoo MT602+Khadas Tone Board 1, Stoner Acoustics UD130, Shanling UA2, Hidizs S9 Pro as well as the Qudelix. Will these be able to drive the Zen 2.0 properly?

If you're planning to splurge on the 2.0 and on the fence about getting the amp or not, might as well get the limited time combo since its only $50 more but comes with the runabout, warpcore, and a zen with SLQ cable in any termination. If you end up not needing the amp, I'm sure someone would scoop it up in the classifieds too. https://www.veclan.com/phone/eac_phone_sel_one?eng_ApplianceVo.eac_id=60

 

[poczta6788]

Hi, can someone tell what i can get right now for under 50$? I was thinking about LBBS but the cheapest ones are for 65$ right now :#, beside them "SHOONTH ESEP-01BL" looks like good candidate for 27$.

 

[nymz]

If you're planning to splurge on the 2.0 and on the fence about getting the amp or not, might as well get the limited time combo since its only $50 more but comes with the runabout, warpcore, and a zen with SLQ cable in any termination. If you end up not needing the amp, I'm sure someone would scoop it up in the classifieds too. https://www.veclan.com/phone/eac_phone_sel_one?eng_ApplianceVo.eac_id=60

Agreed. Thats what I got. I think the deal ends on the 15th.

Altho, I wont rec it, since its 200usd lol

 

[nymz]

Hi, can someone tell what i can get right now for under 50$? I was thinking about LBBS but the cheapest ones are for 65$ right now :#, beside them "SHOONTH ESEP-01BL" looks like good candidate for 27$.

M2S pro, lbbs, yincrow x6.

That Soonth looks good tho. You can find some reviews around. I think its @furyossa that owns one. I might grab one in the future

 

[emusic13]

Zen SLQ

 

[jrazmar]

As promised...
I've been using my SL 2.5mm for over 2 hours with no issues with adapters (4.4mm to 2.5mm and 3.5mm to 2.5mm) on my Fiio Q3.

Thanks! So probably Hououin Kyouma's issue with the adapter or with his SL balanced is an isolated one and not true to all. Still waiting for the Iris 2.0, my first taste of Faaeal sound. If the sound fits me, I may have to check again the SL 2.5mm.

Zen SLQ

How does this compare to the Newbsound? I tried contacting the maker but unfortunately he doesn't ship outside of US.