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Jan 30, 2022 at 6:58 AM Post #59,941 of 61,753

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No, X6 is yincrow brand bit is same vido
Read the following review by @cenizas to understand that.
https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/yincrow-x6.22393/reviews#item-review-23970

Here's a comparison graph between the X6 (blue), the white Vido and the red Vido that was placed there.
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Jan 30, 2022 at 8:13 AM Post #59,943 of 61,753

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Great work, thank you!

2 noob questions:

1) Is there a way to use those graphs with AutoEQ to create PEQ (and GEQ for Wavelet)?
2) What response target should be used with earbuds (as opposed to headphones or IEMs)?
1. DONT, these do not simulate what you are hearing IRL.

2. No bud targets exists.
 
Jan 30, 2022 at 10:41 AM Post #59,945 of 61,753

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Jan 30, 2022 at 11:22 AM Post #59,946 of 61,753

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I normally use her cable down with double foams (one full and one donut, from ve ex-pack). I've tried around ear aswell but it hasn't usually felt that stable. However right now I'm listening to Maria cable around ear and fit seems actually pretty stable. Bass seems to be a bit less present, but still enoughly so. Probably cable connector creates some additional seal when worn cable down. Still around ear can be pretty decent alternative wear with Maria. Around ear upgrade cable could even improve fit, but as Maria still uses that really uncommon 0,75mm 2 pin connector upgrade cables aren't that good option. Obiviosly 0,78mm connectors could 'fit' with force as it's not a big difference afterall, but I don't assume it would be that healthy for Maria connectors.
I had to settle back on stock cable as well. It's not the greatest but connectors do fit perfectly. Tried aftermarket NiceHCK and Xinhs cables, and although there were no issues with sound, connectors didn't fit all the way in leaving about 1mm gap.

Penon sent me copper cable but the listing had the nicer looking blue cable when I purchased Maria. They updated product page after I complained. I think I would've preferred the original blue cable instead.

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What other buds are out there with .78mm pins?
VE Zen 2.0 Omega Edition
 
Jan 30, 2022 at 3:50 PM Post #59,947 of 61,753

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I had to settle back on stock cable as well. It's not the greatest but connectors do fit perfectly. Tried aftermarket NiceHCK and Xinhs cables, and although there were no issues with sound, connectors didn't fit all the way in leaving about 1mm gap.

Penon sent me copper cable but the listing had the nicer looking blue cable when I purchased Maria. They updated product page after I complained. I think I would've preferred the original blue cable instead.

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That's strange as I think there were that same picture of copper cable when I ordered, but I still got that original blue cable along with silver braided one. Quite shortly after I got Maria it went out of stock, so I probably got one of last pairs of discounted Maria from Penon. That blue cable is pretty nice, but I still prefer to use that silver braided cable which is same as one I got with Masya pro aswell. That's such a good cable, more flexible and less microphonic than that blue cable.
 
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That's strange as I think there were that same picture of copper cable when I ordered, but I still got that original blue cable along with silver braided one. Quite shortly after I got Maria it went out of stock, so I probably got one of last pairs of discounted Maria from Penon. That blue cable is pretty nice, but I still prefer to use that silver braided cable which is same as one I got with Masya pro aswell. That's such a good cable, more flexible and less microphonic than that blue cable.
I bought mine during their Black Friday 2020 sale.

That's why I don't shop with Penon anymore. One customer gets three cables, another customer gets one cable buying same item- and they claimed my order was fulfilled properly.
 
Jan 30, 2022 at 5:10 PM Post #59,949 of 61,753

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I bought mine during their Black Friday 2020 sale.

That's why I don't shop with Penon anymore. One customer gets three cables, another customer gets one cable buying same item- and they claimed my order was fulfilled properly.
Now that's very unfair.. Is Penon actually modifying package contents or something.. I assume two cables is what Rose Technics provides with Maria, as there were two cables with Masya aswell. Did you only get one cable with Maria?
 
Jan 30, 2022 at 5:39 PM Post #59,950 of 61,753

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That's strange as I think there were that same picture of copper cable when I ordered, but I still got that original blue cable along with silver braided one. Quite shortly after I got Maria it went out of stock, so I probably got one of last pairs of discounted Maria from Penon. That blue cable is pretty nice, but I still prefer to use that silver braided cable which is same as one I got with Masya pro aswell. That's such a good cable, more flexible and less microphonic than that blue cable.
I got that same blue (stiff ish) cable with my Maria II. Mine only came with one cable.

Edit: As a matter of fact, I didn't get the 6.5 adapter or the silicone donuts either.
 
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Now that's very unfair.. Is Penon actually modifying package contents or something.. I assume two cables is what Rose Technics provides with Maria, as there were two cables with Masya aswell. Did you only get one cable with Maria?
Yes, I only got the "new" copper cable. Sorry I thought you got all three cables but my comment still stands in lieu of you getting two and different ones.

I got that same blue (stiff ish) cable with my Maria II. Mine only came with one cable.

Edit: As a matter of fact, I didn't get the 6.5 adapter or the silicone donuts either.
Please note picture I posted is of Maria 1 supposed packaging. If Maria 2 is being advertised with those accessories but not shipped to you, sorry to hear that.
 
Jan 30, 2022 at 6:56 PM Post #59,952 of 61,753

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Yes, I only got the "new" copper cable. Sorry I thought you got all three cables but my comment still stands in lieu of you getting two and different ones.


Please note picture I posted is of Maria 1 supposed packaging. If Maria 2 is being advertised with those accessories but not shipped to you, sorry to hear that.
Same, only got the copper with the Maria II. I'm not a fan of the cable. I just the the moondrop kato in yesterday. That cable is way better than the one Rose packages with the Maria
 
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Maria II should have exquisite packaging and cable(s) for the price. They are just too pricey for what they seem to be, but I guess many people do buy them and are fans regardless. No ill will meant.

A pity, as I have an idea I would like their sound given my preferences elsewhere.

I would like to get a Kato for fun and reference one of these days, but back on the poverty line-especially knowing I have to file taxes soon. Due to Moondrop's own Chaconne, I do not think I really "need" the Kato anytime soon. They like to stay true to their preference curve to a fault (I may be in the minority in thinking this), so Chaconne *may* be one of the best ambassadors of their supposed preferred signature (if I am wrong, it is fine-no need for debates.)
 
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Jan 30, 2022 at 11:17 PM Post #59,955 of 61,753

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Comparing the b40 and x6, the b40 is closer to neutral and the x6 is for the bass head.

The shape of b40 is pk type, but it is about 0.2mm larger.
The shape of x6 is called mx500 type, which is clearly larger than pk type.

EDIT:
However, if you want sound quality, I recommend Shozy Cygnus, which is also a true PK type...
The price difference with Shozy is insane compared to b40 and x6... not sure if justified?

Im gonna buy the b40 first. Anyone has the correct link? I see several. For instance, I see a ton of links here:

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I don't want to buy some knockoff. Anyone can point to the real deal?
 
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