Oh right I should mention that I'm currently using the donut foams. They're in the middle ground for me between the foams and the silicones, and I think trimming off just enough to uncover more of the driver while still maintaining grip/seal in my ears would make the sound perfect for me, though I'm a bit concerned to cut such nice foam up without getting a backup. I think years of playing violin have made me a bit of a treblehead, but the Smabat bass is pretty sweet, too.I use full foams with them. Yeah agree the full foams do muffle the sound and clarity a tinge. But without foams, the 3 kHz area is a bit too sharp for me.
Silicone rings as you say make the sound brighter.
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Earbuds Round-Up
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I have heard the following versions (variants) of the PS100-600:
PS100-600 3.5 Unbalanced "Classic"PS100-600 2.5 Balanced "Classic"PS100-600S 2.5 Balanced "Pop" (I ended up owning a pair of these)
To my ears there wasn't a huge difference between "tuning" ("Classic" vs "Pop"). The mids are slightly more forward on the "S" aka "Pop - Vocal" version (just noticeably so in the lower to middle range, nothing too extreme though). I found that the "S" sounded the best with ambient electronica which usually has a lot of soft details in the lower mids. The "Classic" tuning/version focuses more on the middle to upper range to capture the timbre of a lot of instruments so is definitely better tuned for classical and/or acoustic music in my opinion.
I would definitely be mulling over a pair myself again if it wasn't for the fact that I now have the Ks Bell-Ti 120Ω which have easily replaced the PureSounds for me.
Thanks for sharing! I guess I'll take some time to think over, since the Bell-Ti 120ohms is on my list and getting the PureSounds 600S will only eat into the funds.
Oh right I should mention that I'm currently using the donut foams. They're in the middle ground for me between the foams and the silicones, and I think trimming off just enough to uncover more of the driver while still maintaining grip/seal in my ears would make the sound perfect for me, though I'm a bit concerned to cut such nice foam up without getting a backup. I think years of playing violin have made me a bit of a treblehead, but the Smabat bass is pretty sweet, too.
You may want to buy a set of Hiegi donuts (left), they have a larger hole than standard donuts (right).

Definitely would recommend that you put those funds towards either the Ks Bell-Ti 120 or Ks Blue Bell. I loved my PureSounds but the Ks have nearly surpassed everything now in my opinion... most especially in the comfort and long listening departments.Thanks for sharing! I guess I'll take some time to think over, since the Bell-Ti 120ohms is on my list and getting the PureSounds 600S will only eat into the funds.
I just ordered the Nickhck DIY MX500. Does it sound best with or without foams? I have trouble getting a comfortable fit for earbuds without foams.
Concur; the same with me. I need the full foam to tame that sibilance. Silicon rings and even foam donuts are a no-go for me.I use full foams with them. Yeah agree the full foams do muffle the sound and clarity a tinge. But without foams, the 3 kHz area is a bit too sharp for me.
Silicone rings as you say make the sound brighter.
A great suggestion for @Victory112; unfortunately, my ears would hate me! That would be way to bright for my tastes LOL!You may want to buy a set of Hiegi donuts (left), they have a larger hole than standard donuts (right).
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Definitely would recommend that you put those funds towards either the Ks Bell-Ti 120 or Ks Blue Bell. I loved my PureSounds but the Ks have nearly surpassed everything now in my opinion... most especially in the comfort and long listening departments.
I guess I'll just have to stop buying anything for some time. The K's 300 Samsara should arrive next week and that will be the last for a while.
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Really enjoying my time with the smabat m2 pro. Is the smabat st-10s silver (40ohm) an upgrade over the m2 pro? I also installed the second filter (v shaped sound sig) on the m2 pro and Iam very happy with the sound. Will the st-10s silver be a noticeable upgrade? Or more of a sidegrade?
You might consider waiting for the soon to be released Smabat M3 that will offer a solderless interchangeable driver.Really enjoying my time with the smabat m2 pro. Is the smabat st-10s silver (40ohm) an upgrade over the m2 pro? I also installed the second filter (v shaped sound sig) on the m2 pro and Iam very happy with the sound. Will the st-10s silver be a noticeable upgrade? Or more of a sidegrade?
jao29
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Do you know when the M3 will be released?You might consider waiting for the soon to be released Smabat M3 that will offer a solderless interchangeable driver.
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Are you guys using full or donut foams with your Yincrow X6? Mine only came with full foams so wondering how they would sound with donuts? And if they sound better with donuts if I can just order any cheap pair off eBay?
Can't go wrong with a Hiegi Donut!Are you guys using full or donut foams with your Yincrow X6? Mine only came with full foams so wondering how they would sound with donuts? And if they sound better with donuts if I can just order any cheap pair off eBay?
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mtl171
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Tempting! I'm still a bit nervous about cable failure. I've never had a nonreplacable cable fail on me (knock on wood), though anything over >$50 makes me a bit more nervous. Completely forgot about taobao though, so I do appreciate the link!It seems that they have a shop on Taobao, but you'll need to be able to read or purchase from there.
I find without foams, its unbearable to listen to due to the ~4khz spike (and this is coming from a self declared treble/mids head who EQed more treble into his etymotics). Something about the way they were tuned is super wonky (with the upper mids/lower treble spike) making it the only transducer that sounds worse (without distortion) when I crank the volume (from mid 60s to mid 70s db).Hello earbud people. I really like the Smabat ST-10s Black Gold and would like to know if other owners of them feel like the given foams/silicon kind of hold the sound back. The foam darkens/muffles the sound and the silicon makes the sound brighter but also more narrow. I haven't tried them without covers yet, I should probably do that...but I do also wanna know what y'all use to make the ST-10s sound just right, in your opinion.
I'm currently running donuts over full foams for extra seal so I can have run at a lower listening volume without feeling anything is missing too much (now they just sound warm instead of more warm V shaped). I did wonder if the foams affected the sound due to the inconsistent thickness and not too circular cut out, though I don't notice any change aside from FR tbh.
Can you describe how those two sound? I'm still abit shocked that even with the prices on AE, there still isnt even a courtesy FR chart.Definitely would recommend that you put those funds towards either the Ks Bell-Ti 120 or Ks Blue Bell. I loved my PureSounds but the Ks have nearly surpassed everything now in my opinion... most especially in the comfort and long listening departments.
Link appears to be dead unfortunately. I did find some listed on AE from penon. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32642830876.htmlHiegi Donut
Definitely would recommend that you put those funds towards either the Ks Bell-Ti 120 or Ks Blue Bell. I loved my PureSounds but the Ks have nearly surpassed everything now in my opinion... most especially in the comfort and long listening departments.
The Bell-Ti 120 is a very balanced and neutral (After further listening it is rather unbalanced and mid-forward) earbud with an extremely ear friendly sound signature that is warm. The Blue Bell is much more livelier (exciting) with extended treble similar to the Moondrop Chaconne; very close to the Old School Ksearphone house sound. Here is a recent post I posted and here is another good one by @ClieOS.Can you describe how those two sound? I'm still abit shocked that even with the prices on AE, there still isnt even a courtesy FR chart.
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Feilong4
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If anyone's interested, I'm selling a NiceHCK EBX21 here: https://www.head-fi.org/classifieds/nicehck-ebx21-flagship-earbuds-3-5mm-termination.502/
Like-new. My first foray back into earbuds, but I couldn't get a good fit.
Like-new. My first foray back into earbuds, but I couldn't get a good fit.
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