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Jan 25, 2021 at 9:33 AM Post #51,812 of 59,880

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What sources are you guys using for your buds?

Currently using this setup for the X6: Topping E30 -> JDS ol switch -> Schiit Asgard 3
(10 usd bud with a 350 usd source setup lol)

But it isnt much better than it is on the JDS atom amp instead of the Asgard 3, so I guess the X6 doesnt scale much higher than this.
I’m using a Oppo Ha2se and a LG V40. It’s not the most powerful though it works well enough for connecting to all my devices.
 
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Jan 25, 2021 at 10:07 AM Post #51,814 of 59,880

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[QUOTE = "furyossa, publicación: 16131139, miembro: 525994"]
BTR5 probablemente conducirá DIY 600ohm Bery sin ningún problema
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[QUOTE = "WoodyLuvr, publicación: 16131114, miembro: 424446"]
Últimamente, FiiO BTR5 y Meizu HiFi PRO
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E1DA 9038sg3
Fiio BTR3k
Tempotec sonata HD and HD pro +V1
Xduoo X3II
Sony NW a105
 
Jan 25, 2021 at 10:16 AM Post #51,815 of 59,880

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When I was into earbuds I got the VE Monks, MrZ Tomahawks and VE Zen LL and and stopped buying, Tomahawks died and I still very much enjoy the other two. I'd love to try the higher MrZ, K's or rose earbuds, they seem to get more attention nowadays than VE.
 
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Why Earbuds?

A rather poignant subject for a many earbud aficionado, this list of "whys" helps better explain our affliction and infatuation with flatheads. Flatheads, aka earbuds, are an oft mislabeled and misunderstood member of the personal mono-stereo earphones family which also includes IEMs, Ear Hooks, and Mono Ear-Receivers (aka Side Earplugs).


Comfort (ear friendly ergonomics; low-fatigue; cool, lightweight with no clamping)
Mobility (low-profile footprint; excellent transportability; caters well to a minimalist approach)
Non-Isolating (open-back design offers optimal situational awareness)
Open Driver (typically delivers spacious, airy sound; natural timbre; faster transient response)
Design Variety (variety of shell housing types, sizes, colors, and fitting styles)
Hygienic (easy-to-clean; cost-effective, easily replaceable ear pad cushions)
Price-Performance Ratio I (excellent value for the money, outside of pricey flagships and totl models)
Price-Performance Ratio II (collect multiple sound signatures and impedances for a modest outlay)
Low-Profile (defeats 'spouse radar' and all other known partner reconnaissance technologies)

As always, I am open to any/all corrections and/or suggestions! :wink:
 
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Why Earbuds?
by @AllHead-fiers


Being a rather poignant subject for a many earbud aficionado I thought it would be timely to create a list of "whys" to help better explain our affliction and infatuation with earbuds.


Comfort
Mobility-Transportability
Low Fatigue
Non-Isolating (as in improved "situational awareness")
Airy Soundstage
Natural Timbre
Price to Performance Ratio
Low-Profile (as in being able to fly under current "wife" radar technologies)

I will expand the list with more details once I receive more input and advice... I am open to any/all corrections and/or suggestions! :wink:
Comfort: Rests on your ears, instead of digging deep like iems do. Heat doesnt get generated as much and since most buds are pretty lightweight, fatigue is almost non-existent.

Soundstage: Very big and generally much bigger than iems and at the same time feels very airy.

Timbre: Excells at having natural timbre, that plus the huge and airy soundstage makes for a very natural sound.

Value: High value since even buds at the sub 10 usd range are generally extremely good and in my opinion (after having 66 iems) no iem rivals buds at that price range.
 
Jan 25, 2021 at 10:28 AM Post #51,818 of 59,880

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Wonder if the BTR5 is enough power for most buds.
unless you're using 300ohm an up earbuds, i think the BTR5 is sufficient.
those high impedance earbuds might be also have enough volume with the BTR5's high gain setting
BTR5 will probably drive DIY 600ohm Bery without any problem
Concur with @furyossa regarding the FiiO BTR5 being able to drive most 600 ohm earbuds (if in balanced mode via the 2.5mm jack) as their drivers are typically rather sensitive... being well over 100 dB/mW.

Currently, my hardest to drive earbuds our my 2.5mm Balanced Crystalcore Audio Kryptonites (150Ω @ 95 dB/mW) and I only use the low gain mode on my FiiO BTR5 with more than half the volume available and they run with plenty of volume remaining on my mate's FiiO BTR3K though in High Power mode. My most demanding earbuds ever were my Puresounds PS100-600S (600Ω @ 93 dB/mW) and although I did not yet have my FiiO BTR5 I did use them with my mate's FiiO BTR3 in High Power mode and they were driven beautifully.
 
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[QUOTE = "furyossa, publicación: 16131139, miembro: 525994"]
BTR5 probablemente conducirá DIY 600ohm Bery sin ningún problema
[/CITAR]
[QUOTE = "WoodyLuvr, publicación: 16131114, miembro: 424446"]
Últimamente, FiiO BTR5 y Meizu HiFi PRO
[/ CITAR]

E1DA 9038sg3
Fiio BTR3k
Tempotec sonata HD and HD pro +V1
Xduoo X3II
Sony NW a105
"BTR5 probablemente conducirá DIY 600ohm Bery sin ningún problema" Is this how I sound in Spanish? :wink: Let me try again but with your DAC/Amp gems
El E1DA 9038sg3 es mucho más potente que el BTR5 y conducirá el Bery 600ohm sin ningún problema. Please tell me if this is correct?
 
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"BTR5 probablemente conducirá DIY 600ohm Bery sin ningún problema" Is this how I sound in Spanish? :wink: Let me try again but with your DAC/Amp gems
El E1DA 9038sg3 es mucho más potente que el BTR5 y conducirá el Bery 600ohm sin ningún problema. Please tell me if this is correct?

It will drive 600 ohm without problem, with outstanding clarity, but ... always with balanced cable, hence you will be looking for mmcx.

Yes, that's how you sound in Spanish, hahaha
 
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Jan 25, 2021 at 10:55 AM Post #51,823 of 59,880

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I'll try to write up something in the next couple hours detailing a community-based project.

I have a bunch of interviews tomorrow to prepare for. :frowning2:
I was originally going to write up a detailed description and post it on a website, but the interview prep is taking a lot of time (also preparing a scope of work doc for a consulting project.)

Here it is in a nutshell

Sam's Community-based Submission Project for Earbuds!

Ultimate Meta Purpose:

1. Elevate earbuds into top tier audiophile awareness
2. Increase innovation from earbud manufacturers by increasing market demand, particularly in the Western Hemisphere.
3. Allow for higher consistency in the "wow" experience for first-time buds users (mostly likely coming from iems or headphones.)

More Practical Purpose of the Project:
1. Create a repository of FR graphs for earbuds. (I realize accuracy will always be an issue, but for comparative purposes and compensation file generation I think I have controls to minimize the variance enough for a positive impact.)
2. Allow anyone with a calibrated mic (ie. dayton imm-6) to submit measurements.
3. Generate wavelet, GEQ and PEQ files for every bud in the repository.


I know there may be a million questions about this project. After I get the site up (it's going to look ugly) and get cringraph integrated, I'll answer any questions and invite active discussion.
 
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What sources are you guys using for your buds?

Currently using this setup for the X6: Topping E30 -> JDS ol switch -> Schiit Asgard 3
(10 usd bud with a 350 usd source setup lol)

But it isnt much better than it is on the JDS atom amp instead of the Asgard 3, so I guess the X6 doesnt scale much higher than this.
my chain:
phone or laptop --> peace or wavelet --> meridian explorer / oppo ha2 / headamp pico amp/dac / btr3 / qudelix 5k / sonata hd pro --> earbuds
 
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I was originally going to write up a detailed description and post it on a website, but the interview prep is taking a lot of time (also preparing a scope of work doc for a consulting project.)

Here it is in a nutshell

Sam's Community-based Submission Project for Earbuds!

Ultimate Meta Purpose:

1. Elevate earbuds into top tier audiophile awareness
2. Increase innovation from earbud manufacturers by increasing market demand, particularly in the Western Hemisphere.
3. Allow for higher consistency in the "wow" experience for first-time buds users (mostly likely coming from iems or headphones.)

More Practical Purpose of the Project:
1. Create a repository of FR graphs for earbuds. (I realize accuracy will always be an issue, but for comparative purposes and compensation file generation I think I have controls to minimize the variance enough for a positive impact.)
2. Allow anyone with a calibrated mic (ie. dayton imm-6) to submit measurements.
3. Generate wavelet, GEQ and PEQ files for every bud in the repository.


I know there may be a million questions about this project. After I get the site up (it's going to look ugly) and get cringraph integrated, I'll answer any questions and invite active discussion.

edit: my suggestion was already provided ...
 
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