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Received 1MORE EO320 over the weekend, purchased from Amazon.it.

Packaging and accessories are above average. Using foamies, they are very comfortable to wear, probably the most comfortable earbuds I've tried so far. Cord is braided until Y-split.

They are V-shape tuned, with nice bass and treble extension. Mids are a bit recessed and vocals are a somewhat behind the sound. Simple, 2D soundstage but instrument / layer separation is quite decent.

Low-end is the highlight so far. EO320 are capable of producing pounding, controlled bass. EQ/DSP can make them very bassy, on top of their default V sound sig. They don't get boomy though, and bass is well separated from mids, sounds like due to a bit of a drop off around low mids area.

Good choice for some thumpin' techno on the go!

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You are correct in that the accuracy of the measurement setup is important but what I'm proposing is a workflow for community-based submissions that can still offer some advantage to earbud users at large with compensation files based on community submissions. The goal I have in mind is faster adoption and coverage of all the various earbuds out there. I plan on creating a repository centralizing all these files. Community based submissions will be limited to 20hz to 10khz, which should be fine since measurements post 10khz are notoriously inaccurate anyways.

By the way, I think after increasing interest and data there will likely be several target curves that cover the vast majority of the preferences of earbud users. Something that parallels the variety we have in the IEM space (ala diffuse field, harman, oratory, etc.) Though I think a bass oriented target and a more neutral target is a good start.
I'm absolutely ok with the idea that community submissions are beneficial, but my point is that it seems risky to say the least to use them this way. It's all a question of how you build the data base then, but personally when reading a graph I want absolute transparency on how it was produced. Putting all measurments in the same basket with nothink but a linear compensation would let the user think all the rigs are comparable, this is not very honest to me. But you're probably well aware of this so I'm stopping there.

Yet I have a grip on what you're trying to achieve with targets. The unknown in our case is not what we should have at the eardrum (this is already well established) but what we should measure on the rigs we have available. If we had fixtures like 43AG we could directly use the harman target as is.
 
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I'm absolutely ok with the idea that community submissions are beneficial, but my point is that it seems risky to say the least to use them this way. It's all a question of how you build the data base then, but personally when reading a graph I want absolute transparency on how it was produced. Putting all measurments in the same basket with nothink but a linear compensation would let the user think all the rigs are comparable, this is not very honest to me. But you're probably well aware of this so I'm stopping there.

Yet I have a grip on what you're trying to achieve with targets. The unknown in our case is not what we should have at the eardrum (this is already well established) but what we should measure on the rigs we have available. If we had fixtures like 43AG we could directly use the harman target as is.
I understand your concerns and we're on the same page. I'm thinking iteratively and how can we kick start a movement of sorts that will actually achieve these sorts of impacts:

1. See the sort of innovation we see in the chi-fi iem space.
2. Have every manufacturer sell buds with growing market share quarter after quarter. (and to see these buds models with stronger placement in their lineup, not like after thoughts or loss leaders. ie. fiio admitting they they won't make money on the em5...)
3. This thread have on average 200 to 500 concurrent guests and users at any given time of day.

All the measurements will not be in the "same basket," for sure. They will reside in a user submitted category. My original thought was having something was better than nothing. I still think this approach is sound but I'll definitely give some more thought as to how this will work out in practice.

As always, I appreciate the feedback and keep them coming!
 
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Yincrow rw-2000 has arrived.
Impressions after 8 hours of burn-in.

Sound Sig:
Harmonious high resolution sound.
The bass has weight, and the mid-high range has a sense of transparency.
A wide and airy sound stage.
Impressive female vocal.
It's a bit like the sound of Moondrop Chaconne.

Good point:
The 15mm driver can be used by people with small ears.
Bad points:
I negotiated and bought it for $ 135, but now it is sold for $ 133.

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About 40 hours to the end of the burn-in.
 
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Yincrow rw-2000 has arrived.
Impressions after 8 hours of burn-in.

Sound Sig:
Harmonious high resolution sound.
The bass has weight, and the mid-high range has a sense of transparency.
A wide and airy sound stage.
Impressive female vocal.
It's a bit like the sound of Moondrop Chaconne.

Good point:
The 15mm driver can be used by people with small ears.
Bad points:
I negotiated and bought it for $ 135, but now it is sold for $ 133.

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Is the bass similar to the X6?
 
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Yes, the bass is similar to the X6.
NICE!

Is the timbre and tonality very natural as well (like the X6)? Since my other buds with similar bass to the X6 have all sacrificed their timbre,tonality, mids and treble for it (Turandot, HE150pro).

If I like the RW-9, I might go for the RW-1000 or RW-2000.
 
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NICE!

Is the timbre and tonality very natural as well (like the X6)? Since my other buds with similar bass to the X6 have all sacrificed their timbre,tonality, mids and treble for it (Turandot, HE150pro).

If I like the RW-9, I might go for the RW-1000 or RW-2000.
The timbre has a sense of transparency, and tonality very natural as well (like the X6).
 
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The timbre has a sense of transparency, and tonality very natural as well (like the X6).
Is it brighter than the X6? Do you have the RW1000 to compare with?
 
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The X6 is darker than rw-2000.
Sorry, I don't have rw-1000.
Do you have the nicehck diy MX500? Is it brighter than that one?
 
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Do you have the nicehck diy MX500? Is it brighter than that one?
Sorry, I don't have the nicehck diy MX500.
If I compare rw-2000 to the Fengru diy EMX500 instead, the rw-2000 is brighter, or rather clearer.
 
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