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Where to get unmodded Kubes that ships internationally? Looking to recable them myself and they don't seems to be on ebay anymore.
 
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Hi! I'm planning to buy the Smabat ST-10s, the 40ohm variant. However, I'am kind of worried because I remember seeing a post here in this forum that the mmcx connectors were loose. Is that still the case now? Many thanks!
 
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Can you guys suggest some earbuds I can upgrade to that is similar to the NiceHCK MX500, traceless or the Faaeal Snow lotus 2.5?

For referrence I dislike the DQSM Turandot, way too unnatural tonality and too bright for me (although that bass is good). I would like to have a similar signature as the 3 above but with better sub-bass (at least somewhat comparable to iems would be nice).

The smabat ST10s seems to have one of the best bass but I am not sure if I would like it since it seems to be a bright bud. L-shaped I guess would be preferred.

EDIT: A replaceable cable would be a huge plus, but NOT required IF the stock cable is decent. (Not like on the Faaeal Iris or the Snow lotus, they feel disgusting.)
 
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The cable junction of these earbuds is probably labeled "CRESYN" on it.
If you can confirm it, these earbuds are a copy product of the Docomo earbuds(drivers) by Cresyn(a Korean company) that I used to buy and have from China.
They sounded better than average, I think.

This product is introduced and sold in the following page. :
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4434963/all
Wow your good haha. I was trying to figure this out because this is what wong is using as a donar to make the blur 173. he is recablling them and doing a burn in and selling it for $175. He says they are as good if not better than the sw dragon 2+ and on the same playing field as the turandot.
 
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Wow your good haha. I was trying to figure this out because this is what wong is using as a donar to make the blur 173. he is recablling them and doing a burn in and selling it for $175. He says they are as good if not better than the sw dragon 2+ and on the same playing field as the turandot.
If you're implying price gouging, here are some things to consider :

- just the material for a good cable can run 40-60% of the final price, not to mention labor to build the cable. Not difficult, I know, as I've built cables before, but still easily justifies another $10-15 labor to make the cable.

- there's also a premium that should be considered along the lines of an artist commission.

- wong's builds have been highly regarded for quite some time. If they aren't worth the price, the market would of priced him out long ago.

- reviews are not easy to come by, but well regarded head'fiers have vouched for his products.

Good enough for me. And I do not doubt his claims.
 
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I'll order those B40s but I also noticed that the NICEHCK store is selling Ksearphone Bell-LB and EB2s (I've linked below). Thinking of ordering one of those as well, are they good value for the price? I mainly listen to indie/alternative/pop-rock at low-ish volumes.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...earchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32917468583.html?spm=2114.12010615.8148356.44.271f40c2Fgin2p
Yeah, you should probably get those as well lol! Actually, I don't have either of them, so I'll let others comment on them.

But if the form factor is okay for you, the ME80's are definite winners: NICEHCK ME80
 
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If you're implying price gouging, here are some things to consider :

- just the material for a good cable can run 40-60% of the final price, not to mention labor to build the cable. Not difficult, I know, as I've built cables before, but still easily justifies another $10-15 labor to make the cable.

- there's also a premium that should be considered along the lines of an artist commission.

- wong's builds have been highly regarded for quite some time. If they aren't worth the price, the market would of priced him out long ago.

- reviews are not easy to come by, but well regarded head'fiers have vouched for his products.

Good enough for me. And I do not doubt his claims.
+1. I still distinctly remember the time I demo'd one of Wong's creations. It was astounding. I hope to be able to afford a Blur someday.
 
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Spent some time cleaning up the sound from the Yuin PK2.

Even after significant alterations, the graph looks pretty horrendous. The only way to fix this is with using a PEQ, but since I'm mainly doing this for my phone, I stay with graphic eq settings. Not posting graphs since they look so ugly. :)

Importantly, what I noticed is that the typical sub-bass roll-off since in many/most buds are significantly less pronounced when you cut the upper bass/lower mids. Not surprising when you consider that many of the bass and mid bloat sounding buds are actually putting out prodigious amounts of low end, it just sounds all muddy (to my ears).

eq_yuin pk2.png

drastic looking, I know...
 
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Can you guys suggest some earbuds I can upgrade to that is similar to the NiceHCK MX500, traceless or the Faaeal Snow lotus 2.5?

For referrence I dislike the DQSM Turandot, way too unnatural tonality and too bright for me (although that bass is good). I would like to have a similar signature as the 3 above but with better sub-bass (at least somewhat comparable to iems would be nice).

The smabat ST10s seems to have one of the best bass but I am not sure if I would like it since it seems to be a bright bud. L-shaped I guess would be preferred.

EDIT: A replaceable cable would be a huge plus, but NOT required IF the stock cable is decent. (Not like on the Faaeal Iris or the Snow lotus, they feel disgusting.)
Sent you a PM if you don't mind. Got a set of ST10s gold from a friendly fellow in this thread for cheap but ended up not using them a whole lot (too high of an impedance for my phone, which is my primary source).
 
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Hi! I'm planning to buy the Smabat ST-10s, the 40ohm variant. However, I'am kind of worried because I remember seeing a post here in this forum that the mmcx connectors were loose. Is that still the case now? Many thanks!
The loose connectors were only on some early batches in the 1st revision of the original ST-10 (green color). Pretty sure that it won't be an issue in the newer ST-10s.
 
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The loose connectors were only on some early batches in the 1st revision of the original ST-10 (green color). Pretty sure that it won't be an issue in the newer ST-10s.
Thanks for the heads up! currently having a hard time deciding whether to buy the ST-10s 40 ohm or the Smabat M2 pro. I listen to mostly rock, rap, and electronic music. What do you guys suggest should I buy between the two?
 
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Thanks for the heads up! currently having a hard time deciding whether to buy the ST-10s 40 ohm or the Smabat M2 pro. I listen to mostly rock, rap, and electronic music. What do you guys suggest should I buy between the two?
What are some of your favorite IEMs?
 
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Thanks for the heads up! currently having a hard time deciding whether to buy the ST-10s 40 ohm or the Smabat M2 pro. I listen to mostly rock, rap, and electronic music. What do you guys suggest should I buy between the two?
I haven't heard the SMABAT ST10S 40 ohm (aka black silver), but some members here have said the black gold (150 ohm) version sounds better. Maybe you might wanna top up a bit more for it? Though it might need a powerful source in view of the 150 ohm impedance.

The SMABAT M2 Pro has tuning modules (and even the option to put aftermarket drivers inside but u will need soldering skills), so it sort of gives u more than one earbud with this purchase, cause u can make it V shaped or more neutralish. I would think for your music genres as above, a V shaped sound would have better bass quantity and make the music more "fun". SMABAT M2 Pro on the tuning module that makes it V shaped actually has not bad subbass extension for a earbud, and bass quantity is not bad, though there's a slight midbass bleed.
 
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I haven't heard the SMABAT ST10S 40 ohm (aka black silver), but some members here have said the black gold (150 ohm) version sounds better. Maybe you might wanna top up a bit more for it? Though it might need a powerful source in view of the 150 ohm impedance.

The SMABAT M2 Pro has tuning modules (and even the option to put aftermarket drivers inside but u will need soldering skills), so it sort of gives u more than one earbud with this purchase, cause u can make it V shaped or more neutralish. I would think for your music genres as above, a V shaped sound would have better bass quantity and make the music more "fun". SMABAT M2 Pro on the tuning module that makes it V shaped actually has not bad subbass extension for a earbud, and bass quantity is not bad, though there's a slight midbass bleed.
Hmm My current dap is only an Ipod touch, so the black gold (150 ohm) is out of the question. Plus, I'm not planning to buy an amp anytime soon. I think I saw a review of the M2 pro's that the pre installed tuning modules are the neutral sounding ones, if that's the case, in your experience, is it difficult to change the tuning modules to the V shaped one? I know there is a video that has a tutorial on how to change the modules, but I'am kind of nervous since I have no experience changing or disassembling earbuds.
 
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