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mbwilson111
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Dear earbud friends, could you please recommend me an earbud close to the Rose Masya. I bought them a couple years ago and they are my only expensive earbud. I think the quality is excellent but my ears now find it hard to handle the high energy and forwardness of this earbud. I find myself limiting the volume because of this. The qualities I still find excellent are the soundstage of course, and the clarity, and great treble extension. I would like an alternate earbud that may keep those qualities, though with a more relaxed sound and same or slightly stronger low end. Surely, very few can match the soundstage, but I hope there will be no major gap in that area. Anything 100 USD or below I will be happy to look at. Oh and it would be great to see earbuds with detachable cable options if possible. Thank you.
I have rose maysa and would recommend the Toneking T400s
I should listen to those sometime if they are meant to be relaxing. I remember wishing they were mine when you got them because they look cool The name is actuallyToneking TO400s right?
@basketballTaco if you do a search on aliexpress you will find several listings. The least expensive one seems to be a sale price... $71
The Smabat ST-10 arrived yesterday and I'm really impressed.
I don't own any other high-end/flagship earbuds, so I can only compare them to theNicehck EB2, QianYun Qian69 and VE Monk Espresso, and from what I've read in this thread earbuds don't scale in price the way IEMs do.
That said these are head and shoulders above the other three pairs in terms of separation, clarity, and bass extension. Full review to follow.
I don't own any other high-end/flagship earbuds, so I can only compare them to theNicehck EB2, QianYun Qian69 and VE Monk Espresso, and from what I've read in this thread earbuds don't scale in price the way IEMs do.
That said these are head and shoulders above the other three pairs in terms of separation, clarity, and bass extension. Full review to follow.
All talk about **** made me wonder if there's anybody owns both **** and smabat care to compare the resolution on both. Just the resolution part though. TIA
rkw
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Dear earbud friends, could you please recommend me an earbud close to the Rose Masya. I bought them a couple years ago and they are my only expensive earbud. I think the quality is excellent but my ears now find it hard to handle the high energy and forwardness of this earbud. I find myself limiting the volume because of this. The qualities I still find excellent are the soundstage of course, and the clarity, and great treble extension. I would like an alternate earbud that may keep those qualities, though with a more relaxed sound and same or slightly stronger low end. Surely, very few can match the soundstage, but I hope there will be no major gap in that area. Anything 100 USD or below I will be happy to look at. Oh and it would be great to see earbuds with detachable cable options if possible. Thank you.
I have the TO400 but not Rose Masya. I and some others feel the TO400 to have bright character and weak bass. People who have compared TO200 and TO600 seem to like those better.I have rose maysa and would recommend the Toneking T400s
DBaldock9
Headphoneus Supremus
Just finished assembling a set of earbuds, for a co-worker, for whose sons I had previously assembled 15.4mm earbuds.
She felt the MX500 shells were too large for her ears, so this set is PK sized.
(The foams and case are from one of the sets of earbuds that I've ordered.)
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I've placed this 14.8mm driver -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Car...ne-unit-Bass-good-elasticity/32448930452.html
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- in this PK shell -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DIY...d-hole-Cotton-has-been-posted/2046553820.html
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- and used this Mic/Control cable -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tia...-X3-Earphone-3-5mm-Male-to-2/32834725227.html
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Connected them to my iFi Micro iDSD, and listened to some music (16-Bit/44.1-KHz & 24-Bit/192-KHz) from my PC.
They sound really good to me, and I think my co-worker will like them, too.
She felt the MX500 shells were too large for her ears, so this set is PK sized.
(The foams and case are from one of the sets of earbuds that I've ordered.)
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I've placed this 14.8mm driver -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Car...ne-unit-Bass-good-elasticity/32448930452.html
.
- in this PK shell -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DIY...d-hole-Cotton-has-been-posted/2046553820.html
.
- and used this Mic/Control cable -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tia...-X3-Earphone-3-5mm-Male-to-2/32834725227.html
.
Connected them to my iFi Micro iDSD, and listened to some music (16-Bit/44.1-KHz & 24-Bit/192-KHz) from my PC.
They sound really good to me, and I think my co-worker will like them, too.
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DBaldock9
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While I was soldering things, I decided to go ahead and install a 2.5mm TRRS plug on the cable for my K's K600.
I've got them connected to the Little Bear B4-X (OPA627AU op-amps), with input from my PC, via the FiiO Taishan D03K (Cirrus 4344) DAC - and they still sound great...
I've got them connected to the Little Bear B4-X (OPA627AU op-amps), with input from my PC, via the FiiO Taishan D03K (Cirrus 4344) DAC - and they still sound great...
theresanarc
100+ Head-Fier
Anyone recommend some foam covers (not donuts) that will work for the Qian39/EdifierH180 shell, PK2 shell, and MX500 shell? Obviously the same foam wouldn't work for all three so I'm looking for a mixed bag with the standard AE shipping (15-30 days I think). Or multiple bags but from the same seller so I don't have to do separate orders.
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Did you also tune them and if yes then howJust finished assembling a set of earbuds, for a co-worker, for whose sons I had previously assembled 15.4mm earbuds.
She felt the MX500 shells were too large for her ears, so this set is PK sized.
(The foams and case are from one of the sets of earbuds that I've ordered.)
.
.
I've placed this 14.8mm driver -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Car...ne-unit-Bass-good-elasticity/32448930452.html
.
- in this PK shell -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DIY...d-hole-Cotton-has-been-posted/2046553820.html
.
- and used this Mic/Control cable -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tia...-X3-Earphone-3-5mm-Male-to-2/32834725227.html
.
Connected them to my iFi Micro iDSD, and listened to some music (16-Bit/44.1-KHz & 24-Bit/192-KHz) from my PC.
They sound really good to me, and I think my co-worker will like them, too.
DBaldock9
Headphoneus Supremus
Did you also tune them and if yes then how
These drivers already have a thin "Tuning Cotton" installed on the back, over the frame vent holes.
I suppose I could have tried peeling it off, and installing some of the thicker material that I've got - but I didn't want to take a chance of damaging the drivers.
The other type of 14.8mm drivers that I've got (made with Black frames), don't have any "Tuning Cotton" installed, so I can do a bit of experimenting when I use them.
assassin10000
Headphoneus Supremus
Anyone recommend some foam covers (not donuts) that will work for the Qian39/EdifierH180 shell, PK2 shell, and MX500 shell? Obviously the same foam wouldn't work for all three so I'm looking for a mixed bag with the standard AE shipping (15-30 days I think). Or multiple bags but from the same seller so I don't have to do separate orders.
Same foams will work on them all. The foams are smaller in dimensions than all those earbud shells before fitting and stretch to fit when installing.
Here you go:
Store link:
https://trigrain518946.aliexpress.com/store/group/Foam-ear-pads/518946_509998943.html
I've stopped using the thinner foams. The thicker foams are a slightly more dense, softer feeling foam vs the thinner more porous (and somewhat itchy) foams.
These are the thinner ones.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/30P...acement-For-Earphone-MP3-MP4/32909795959.html
These are the thicker ones (identical density/foam, bottom link is just a lot more of them for a good price):
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/20p...phone-Earpads-Covers-MP3-MP4/32671911259.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/50-...ns-bud-Headphone-Covers-Tips/32607003829.html
There is also the VE "ex pack" for earbuds. Select the last 'color' option for it. I've not ordered it (yet), but it has a selection. I'm not sure how their 'thick' foams compare to the above links.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Venture-Electronic-VE-MONK-earbud-earphone/32417311324.html
Here's closeup pics of the two.
'thicker'
'thinner'
If you want to go almost no foam, there are these as well. I've never tried them as they look super itchy:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ers-Tips-For-Earphone/518946_32881765999.html
mbwilson111
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Anyone recommend some foam covers (not donuts) that will work for the Qian39/EdifierH180 shell, PK2 shell, and MX500 shell? Obviously the same foam wouldn't work for all three so I'm looking for a mixed bag with the standard AE shipping (15-30 days I think). Or multiple bags but from the same seller so I don't have to do separate orders.
Like @assassin10000 said, the same foams do work on all three of the shells that you mentioned and more. I like the Trig Rain ones best (the ones in his link) because they have a slightly thicker nicer feel to me and they come in many colors. It is best to gently stretch them a little all the way around before trying to put them on the bud. Some people can do it quickly. Takes me between 5 and 20 minutes... lol. Sometimes I give up and ask for help.
Willber
1000+ Head-Fier
Being pedantic, but the Qian39 and EdifierH180 shells are not the same.Anyone recommend some foam covers (not donuts) that will work for the Qian39/EdifierH180 shell, PK2 shell, and MX500 shell? Obviously the same foam wouldn't work for all three so I'm looking for a mixed bag with the standard AE shipping (15-30 days I think). Or multiple bags but from the same seller so I don't have to do separate orders.
More importantly, as has been said, foams will fit all buds.
I already tried that in the past, it's very tricky. Have to be extremely meticulous and result is very often disappointing (still some traces of glue, not very beautiful to look after). The problem is that we can't use some kind of dissolvent as drivers are way too close and using thin bezels is dangerous if passing through the holes.These drivers already have a thin "Tuning Cotton" installed on the back, over the frame vent holes.
I suppose I could have tried peeling it off, and installing some of the thicker material that I've got - but I didn't want to take a chance of damaging the drivers.
I think best way is to put the cotton and not remove it anymore after that, or buy a new set of drivers (of course, if possible).
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