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Rose Masya re-terminated as the original plug was flaking and effecting the signal.

I was having an issue with the connectors staying put so they are under some clear heat shrink now.
My Mojitos had a slightly loose fit with it’cable. Now I just use .78 cables instead of .75.
 
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Anyone know the diameter of this shell? RY04. I spotted it on their store when I was ordering the RY4s (speaking of which, what does the UE cable do vs the regular?).

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/RY04-original-in-ear-Earphone-metal-manufacturer-15mm-music-Headphone-quality-sound-HIFI-headset-IE800-style/1850191_32655283684.html?spm=2114.12010615.8148356.2.47f65414SuVLLb
Not sure but I found the shells, said there 16mm shell made for 15.4mm dynamic driver
DIY 16mm earphone headset accessories funda universal headphone unit housing A8 headphones shell casing 15.4mm

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bzzIoEZ2
 
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Ha congrats for your newly catch bro.

My Zen2.0 black alternative Zoe with Black cardas golden ratio speakers wires say Hi

I'm eager to hear the improvement with the cardas golden cable on ZOE. I demoed the Zen Black and it sounds great.

This is my ZOE with Satin Audio Monster Griffin cable. Nice combo indeed.
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does crossroads HR-1 worth to buy nowdays? im only using ifi nano black label connected to my pc
 
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I'm eager to hear the improvement with the cardas golden cable on ZOE. I demoed the Zen Black and it sounds great.

This is my ZOE with Satin Audio Monster Griffin cable. Nice combo indeed.
I didn't had that plenty of cabling option at hand for me to played with the zoe except for the standard cable for zen 2.0 which comes with and the cardas golden ratio which i accidentally come across the listing for sale by one of my local communities .
I haven't even got the Zoe yet When i bought that cardas .
I was still planning and considering on the black or the Zoe edition which to order first at that time , but the decision making of which to order first came very easy and naturally when that cardas golden ratio suddenly appear out of the blue in the listing and the next thing i do was ping the seller and secured that cardas and ordered the zoe from VE straight away.

We understand that the cardas golden selection was used on the black edition , and from the memory with my many many months back brief demo on one of the black edition from my local communities playing both on my LG and with one of my QLS , i experienced the warmth and smoothie soundstage sig yet was detailing enough for my music and that was the kind of sig i had been looking and craving for in my music , i love lush warmth and smooth type of soundstage with earbuds , class A type of amplify tube like sound , because i like listening my music loud and those sig are able to let me turn up the vol without had that Sharpen knife like piercing through my ears with the highs .
That was my short experiencing on the black edition with my gears from my memory , and i really really love the black edition very very the much because it suits me and the music and most importantly the synergy between the black edition with the gears i had at hand was very good very satisfying.

As for the cardas golden ratio which i had pair with the zoes are not sound as fuller as compare to the black edition cardas in my memory , the cardas golden ratio which i had at hand is of a brighter , more clearer and lots of details , micro details to be specific .
Not warmth and smooth lush like , but was smooth enough for me to use it at loud volume with the RA2B headphone amp without that knife piercing through the ears type of experiences , i love it too with this one cardas , each has it own strength , and i loved both with what i had experience it with , the black edition Zen is coming in on my next VE order . it's a great opportunity for me to have 2 Zen in 2 different world of cardas .
I will have a better understanding the sonic difference between the 2 once i got the black edition in my next VE order .

Apart from the cardas wires above , lately not long ago i had also got a chance to short demo with a very pricey cooper litz in 4 wires with the zoe .
I been told and intro in which this is a custom designed wires made in japan by Furukawa , which the wires are originated comes from a famous brand in HK Rhapsodio .

The initial demo with this wires is of a very rush one , but the experience with it on the zoe soundstage wise is rich full add that with warmth and smooth , so for my taste that's sound very nice in that short demo ing , and to had a further taste of what actually would taste like when pairing up with my other gears is a thing I'm very interested to find out, and if the synergy is good between the gears i had and sound exactly what I'm looking for , i will request to demo a 8 wires instead of that 4 wire , to feel throughly about the difference between 4 and 8 wires with the Zoe .
If the final result is good , i will not hesitate to purchase another Zoe to pair up with this one cooper , just need another 1 stressfree type of quality demo session will do.

Actually there's another Zen with me atm with the oyaide silver wires.

It's marketed as the Zen white at VE . a very pricey TOTL earbud money could buy at this moment i believe .

This oyaide zen was loaned to me by a friend from the courtesy of my local community , it's a might wants to sell item as he's into big cans nowsaday so this piece is not much put into use after he switch over to really ex cans .
As it's of no use to him that's why he's ok to let me have a feel of what a Zen with Oyaide sound like and go have fun with it without any condition .

The Zen with the oyaide I'm experiencing is are on another lever , side by side sonic comparison with the cardas golden ratio i got is quite similar to the comparison made above with the black edition through my memory ,

With the oyaide and the golden ratio is kind of night and day differences between the two wires .
Firstly to noted is the golden ratio is of very very stiff wires , too stiff to be wear and used properly with iem or the zoe if i was to be very specific with it , i don't think many would like that stiff wearing and walking around because it just wouldn't work with walking or commuting around with the golden ratio wires .
For my case , that's ok and it's fine as i mainly used it at home , enjoying on the desk so i can live with that kind of stiffness .

Second to noted is , based on my memory with the black edition , this Zen oyaide sonically difference with the black edition cardas golden selection is not of a day or night difference as compared to the one cardas golden ratio i had ,
I found the zen oyaide soundstage like the black edition is of warmth ,smooth , rich , fuller and lot of details enough to be heard , not as bright or as clear compare to the golden ratio but i believe is certainly a upgrade to the black edition , i cannot confirm as i do not have the black edition placed side by side with the zen oyaide to experiencing the differences between both , but compare to the Zoe with cardas golden ratio , i preferred and leaned more towards to the zen oyaide , the reason is I like a warmth and smooth sound than any other , the Zen with the oyaide sound exactly what my preference was , so if i have to choose one among the above , i would bite the bullet to go straight directly for the best , which i will pick the zen with the silver oyaide .

Overall my experience with the Zen is , these zen are extremely good when drive with a powerful headphone Amplifier , i used the RA2B to drive them to heaven , regardless of which type of music genres I'm listening to , whether it's with the oyaide silver or the cardas golden ratio .
It's all very satisfying to me .

To me , after listening experiencing with the various zen , the zen earbud is not just a earbud to me anymore.

It's more than a earbud it can brings , it's a lifelike experience .

Sorry write so lengthy reply , no offence ya , and hopefully you understand what I'm writing .
 
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I didn't had that plenty of cabling option at hand for me to played with the zoe except for the standard cable for zen 2.0 which comes with and the cardas golden ratio which i accidentally come across the listing for sale by one of my local communities .
I haven't even got the Zoe yet When i bought that cardas .
I was still planning and considering on the black or the Zoe edition which to order first at that time , but the decision making of which to order first came very easy and naturally when that cardas golden ratio suddenly appear out of the blue in the listing and the next thing i do was ping the seller and secured that cardas and ordered the zoe from VE straight away.

We understand that the cardas golden selection was used on the black edition , and from the memory with my many many months back brief demo on one of the black edition from my local communities playing both on my LG and with one of my QLS , i experienced the warmth and smoothie soundstage sig yet was detailing enough for my music and that was the kind of sig i had been looking and craving for in my music , i love lush warmth and smooth type of soundstage with earbuds , class A type of amplify tube like sound , because i like listening my music loud and those sig are able to let me turn up the vol without had that Sharpen knife like piercing through my ears with the highs .
That was my short experiencing on the black edition with my gears from my memory , and i really really love the black edition very very the much because it suits me and the music and most importantly the synergy between the black edition with the gears i had at hand was very good very satisfying.

As for the cardas golden ratio which i had pair with the zoes are not sound as fuller as compare to the black edition cardas in my memory , the cardas golden ratio which i had at hand is of a brighter , more clearer and lots of details , micro details to be specific .
Not warmth and smooth lush like , but was smooth enough for me to use it at loud volume with the RA2B headphone amp without that knife piercing through the ears type of experiences , i love it too with this one cardas , each has it own strength , and i loved both with what i had experience it with , the black edition Zen is coming in on my next VE order . it's a great opportunity for me to have 2 Zen in 2 different world of cardas .
I will have a better understanding the sonic difference between the 2 once i got the black edition in my next VE order .

Apart from the cardas wires above , lately not long ago i had also got a chance to short demo with a very pricey cooper litz in 4 wires with the zoe .
I been told and intro in which this is a custom designed wires made in japan by Furukawa , which the wires are originated comes from a famous brand in HK Rhapsodio .

The initial demo with this wires is of a very rush one , but the experience with it on the zoe soundstage wise is rich full add that with warmth and smooth , so for my taste that's sound very nice in that short demo ing , and to had a further taste of what actually would taste like when pairing up with my other gears is a thing I'm very interested to find out, and if the synergy is good between the gears i had and sound exactly what I'm looking for , i will request to demo a 8 wires instead of that 4 wire , to feel throughly about the difference between 4 and 8 wires with the Zoe .
If the final result is good , i will not hesitate to purchase another Zoe to pair up with this one cooper , just need another 1 stressfree type of quality demo session will do.

Actually there's another Zen with me atm with the oyaide silver wires.

It's marketed as the Zen white at VE . a very pricey TOTL earbud money could buy at this moment i believe .

This oyaide zen was loaned to me by a friend from the courtesy of my local community , it's a might wants to sell item as he's into big cans nowsaday so this piece is not much put into use after he switch over to really ex cans .
As it's of no use to him that's why he's ok to let me have a feel of what a Zen with Oyaide sound like and go have fun with it without any condition .

The Zen with the oyaide I'm experiencing is are on another lever , side by side sonic comparison with the cardas golden ratio i got is quite similar to the comparison made above with the black edition through my memory ,

With the oyaide and the golden ratio is kind of night and day differences between the two wires .
Firstly to noted is the golden ratio is of very very stiff wires , too stiff to be wear and used properly with iem or the zoe if i was to be very specific with it , i don't think many would like that stiff wearing and walking around because it just wouldn't work with walking or commuting around with the golden ratio wires .
For my case , that's ok and it's fine as i mainly used it at home , enjoying on the desk so i can live with that kind of stiffness .

Second to noted is , based on my memory with the black edition , this Zen oyaide sonically difference with the black edition cardas golden selection is not of a day or night difference as compared to the one cardas golden ratio i had ,
I found the zen oyaide soundstage like the black edition is of warmth ,smooth , rich , fuller and lot of details enough to be heard , not as bright or as clear compare to the golden ratio but i believe is certainly a upgrade to the black edition , i cannot confirm as i do not have the black edition placed side by side with the zen oyaide to experiencing the differences between both , but compare to the Zoe with cardas golden ratio , i preferred and leaned more towards to the zen oyaide , the reason is I like a warmth and smooth sound than any other , the Zen with the oyaide sound exactly what my preference was , so if i have to choose one among the above , i would bite the bullet to go straight directly for the best , which i will pick the zen with the silver oyaide .

Overall my experience with the Zen is , these zen are extremely good when drive with a powerful headphone Amplifier , i used the RA2B to drive them to heaven , regardless of which type of music genres I'm listening to , whether it's with the oyaide silver or the cardas golden ratio .
It's all very satisfying to me .

To me , after listening experiencing with the various zen , the zen earbud is not just a earbud to me anymore.

It's more than a earbud it can brings , it's a lifelike experience .

Sorry write so lengthy reply , no offence ya , and hopefully you understand what I'm writing .
TBH, it's very likely I'll purchase the ZOE again to use with the 102ssc cable that's lying around. In fact, I liked them so much that I jumped on the Black Edition without second thought, when Lee offered me to trade them in.

Although price being a factor of consideration, I do see myself eventually getting the White Edition. Though I wouldn't classify one as being superior to the other, just different takes on the same signature. I think the same can be said about the ZOE with 102ssc cables. They're really excellent as well... :D
 
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TBH, it's very likely I'll purchase the ZOE again to use with the 102ssc cable that's lying around. In fact, I liked them so much that I jumped on the Black Edition without second thought, when Lee offered me to trade them in.

Although price being a factor of consideration, I do see myself eventually getting the White Edition. Though I wouldn't classify one as being superior to the other, just different takes on the same signature. I think the same can be said about the ZOE with 102ssc cables. They're really excellent as well... :D
Yes , the zen really sound different with various types of wires i had been experiencing with , much of it comes with the wires , the zen are priced differently at VE store mainly the reason is because of the type of wires VE had picked and paired it with the Zen , the black edition and white edition is the best example .

The Zoe are more open for cabing options for zen user to played with because of the detachable shell design , so it's good in a way to let zen user to experience different feel with the zen .

All in all , from my experience , without a powerful amp , the zen wouldn't shine and sing like a hi end and it's impossible to brings out the best in the zen .
To drive them to heaven one need a powerful amp .

And VE are not short of offering the most bang for buck powerful amp .
 
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The Ocean blue cable is also great for the ZOE, really cleans up the sound imo. Generally I find pure silver cables to work best with the ZOE, the thicker the better. Copper and spc can be rather finicky.
 
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And VE are not short of offering the most bang for buck powerful amp .
Right? The RAplus is pretty much my standard amp. It doesn't have balanced, but the SE is enough to drive everything I've ever tried.
 
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The Ocean blue cable is also great for the ZOE, really cleans up the sound imo. Generally I find pure silver cables to work best with the ZOE, the thicker the better. Copper and spc can be rather finicky.
The options of trying with wires are endless with the Zoe .
That's what i like most in the Zoe .
But as usual with these detachable connecter ports, it tends to wear out and cause it to loose when changing wires frequently . that's one downside .

Right? The RAplus is pretty much my standard amp. It doesn't have balanced, but the SE is enough to drive everything I've ever tried.
Imho , if looking at VE portable headphone amp , the most bang for bucks in the line up is the $200+ RA2.0 bal lite , power spec is impressive for its size and comes with balanced and single out , very hard to beat this one
 
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The Ocean blue cable is also great for the ZOE, really cleans up the sound imo. Generally I find pure silver cables to work best with the ZOE, the thicker the better. Copper and spc can be rather finicky.
The options of trying with wires are endless with the Zoe .
That's what i like most in the Zoe .
But as usual with these detachable connecter ports, it tends to wear out and cause it to loose when changing wires frequently . that's one downside .



Imho , if looking at VE portable headphone amp , the most bang for bucks in the line up is the $200+ RA2.0 bal lite , power spec is impressive for its size and comes with balanced and single out , very hard to beat this one
Does the type of wire used in the interconnect between driver and 2 pin connector not effect the sound compared to a direct connection to the driver? (Like all nom detachable cables).

I know that in earbuds this wire lenght is very minimal but I've always wondered this for headphones too.

Buying expensive rare precious metal wires for your gear but having a cheap stock copper wire and different connector matieral in the signal path.
 
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Does the type of wire used in the interconnect between driver and 2 pin connector not effect the sound compared to a direct connection to the driver? (Like all nom detachable cables).

I know that in earbuds this wire lenght is very minimal but I've always wondered this for headphones too.

Buying expensive rare precious metal wires for your gear but having a cheap stock copper wire in the signal path.
I guess it does, but to what kind of degree measurable or perceivable that is... :D

BTW have you already started with the DIY projects? See that you're warming up with the Masya cables first...
 
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