Earbuds Round-Up
Feb 12, 2017 at 4:03 PM Post #17,551 of 78,383
Just met with mr. Adhi @rholupat
 to test-compare the Edimun v3, Red De'mun, Blue De"mun, and Abnormal Dietris, also testing the BMac amp...and came home with the Red De'mun and a smile on my face 
thank you mr. Adhi for being patient :D  . next i might purchase the BMac


What was your thought on blue vs red demun? I still love my bmac. Wish it had stronger output though. I double amp it sometimes.

Hi vapman I got some different point of view,To be honestly,I am a puresounds fan from China.
In China there is a consensus that PS600 is easy to drive and Ty650 hard to drive ,and I feel the same with those comments from taobao.I received my PS600 for 3 day and totally love it.I was shocked when I plugged it into my hifiman901u.Pure,detailed sound,vocal is sweet also (Might benefit from 901U),super large soundstage and very good "spacesence" ,just like I stand in the front of stage ;When I plug it into my Meizu pro5 ,I still got a wonderful sound , but not very musical , So I think it's really easy to drive .Haha. Do you agree with me ?
I think you are a vocal/pop music lover.right?


I cant tell if you are telling me you tried asura 2 and like it less.

I would not call it really easy to drive. It is just as hard to drive as ty 650 to me. Ty 650 and puresounds 600 are so different sounding they are hardly comparable. Ty 650 needs more amp power to sound "alive" but when you amp the ty 650 i think it edges out the ps600 because its more neutral and balanced therefore more studio tuned imo... makes the puresound 600 more a "vocal oriented" bud than a "studio monitor" tuning to me. they are so similar though.

If you have heard asura 2 i find your comments on puresounds 600 very strange. If you have not heard it... Try it. And tell me if you feel the same about your puresound 600 afterwards.

I have found i prefer the puresound for using with old pro audio gear that can blow out low impedance headphones easily. It does not feel delicate as ty 650.

Puresounds 600 has an ok but not exceptional soundstage on any device. It is better on some than others but it is purely horizontal. As i stated, you can not have any sense of front to back with puresounds 600 so i stopped using them for games.

Anyway you are right they sound nice with the right dap. But i think ty 650 does too. Puresounds is not for EQ heads like me. It is probably better to classical or pop music fans.

I think you can call me a hip-hop and bass lover. :blush:


AKAI and puresound 600
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Feb 12, 2017 at 5:18 PM Post #17,553 of 78,383

Buds you can safely use with the iFi Micro iDSD on Turbo Mode (or any other 4W+ amp at full power)

Ranked by how much power they can take with no problem, before sound either distorts or becomes uncontrolled, with extreme sub bass EQ and bass boost switch set to "full". For those who like to feel like their earbuds are about to explode with energy.

  
  • VE Asura 2.0
  • TY 650
  • Recabled vintage Sony bud
  • Qian39
  • VE Monk+
  • Baldor E100
  • Yinman 150 (I don't own 500 OR i only assume it would be better)
  • SHE3800
  • Sony E808+
 
If they didn't make the list and I own them, they couldn't handle being fed over a full watt of power.   
 
The only one that could take 1W but with the EQ bypassed.... Puresounds 600.
 
No earbuds were harmed in the process of this test.
 
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Feb 12, 2017 at 5:57 PM Post #17,554 of 78,383
Blox B320 :sunglasses:
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Any comment about its sound, please?
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 7:55 PM Post #17,556 of 78,383
The asymmetry of E808+ cable drives me mad, purely a psychological thing... 

Pop the 808 open and recable it! If you can't do that yourself i seem to remember you live in diy heaven :blush:

Either one of these two $0.50 Y-cables will make good 1-to1 replacements. Almost unchanged E808+ sound. Perhaps a bit less grainy.
 
https://world.taobao.com/item/42830862853.htm
https://world.taobao.com/item/522091837778.htm
 
PS: Be careful opening the shell. Recommend masking tape to hold driver & front cover together at earliest possible moment. And only remove just before closing up.
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 8:08 PM Post #17,557 of 78,383
   
Can you give me an impression & comparison between the Dietris Vs the Others?
 
Thanks

 
The Dietris is mid oriented buds with rolled off trebles and slightly attenuated bass. the mids are thick and nice though,great for vocals, but it's just not my preferred sound
The Edimun (rhodium jack) is also great sounding, but to my ears the bass is a little boomy. the soundstage might be a little bigger to the de'muns, but the de'muns is more clear even in the noisy environment where we met (see below)
 
What was your thought on blue vs red demun? I still love my bmac. Wish it had stronger output though. I double amp it sometimes.

 
I met with adhi rholupat at food court mall, with blaring music from a nearby ice skating rink, so it was not a real ideal place to listen to earbuds...but that's where i found that the de'muns really excel compared to the others. With the music playing at the same volume, the de'muns displayed the music with clarity and focus, it's like listening to the music in a soundproofed studio (the dietris and edimun still lets the background sound kind off interfere with the music), but the strange part is I can still hear adhi talking to me clearly. With the edimun and dietris i have to take them off to listen to his sentences clearly.
 
I also bring my mrice e100, toneking tp16 and edifier h185, and the one that can also play the music clearly regardless the background noise is the h185, but the de'muns are a few levels above the h185 in every department. The h185 is like listening to speakers set parallel to my ears, while the de'muns sounded like really wearing a headphone, with the sound coming not only parallel but also above the ear level
 
now between the red and blue, the sounded similar, but the blue has more energy and harmonics on treble frequencies...it's like the cymbals are hit harder. I prefer the softer treble sound on the red, and also the red is slightly better at mids, and sounded a tad clearer on that noisy place. But the both are outstanding. according to adhi, the blue and red only differs in cable. the driver tweaks are the same.
 
PS: they all are fresh demo stocks with no or minimal burn in, so that might be a factor why the edimun is underperforming, because I read that the edimun requires some burn in time to shine while the de'muns sounded great from the start
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 8:23 PM Post #17,558 of 78,383
  now between the red and blue, the sounded similar, but the blue has more energy and harmonics on treble frequencies...it's like the cymbals are hit harder. I prefer the softer treble sound on the red, and also the red is slightly better at mids, and sounded a tad clearer on that noisy place. But the both are outstanding. according to adhi, the blue and red only differs in cable. the driver tweaks are the same.
 
PS: they all are fresh demo stocks with no or minimal burn in, so that might be a factor why the edimun is underperforming, because I read that the edimun requires some burn in time to shine while the de'muns sounded great from the start

This is probably the best answer I could have asked for. A well deserved +1 for you.
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 8:40 PM Post #17,559 of 78,383
  This is probably the best answer I could have asked for. A well deserved +1 for you.

glad i can help. you also deserved a big thanks, because even though i'm indonesian, i might not have known the de'muns and edimun if it weren't for @golov17 , @Danneq , and your reviews 
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Feb 12, 2017 at 8:52 PM Post #17,560 of 78,383
  glad i can help. you also deserved a big thanks, because even though i'm indonesian, i might not have known the de'muns and edimun if it weren't for @golov17 , @Danneq , and your reviews 
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That is cool, that those of us so far from Indonesia can still help Indonesians 
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 There are a lot of posts about those buds so if you ever missed it i will say it again - having not (yet) heard blue demun - red demun is the only bud that could beat MX985 at its own game to my ears.  EQ, non EQ, amped and non amped, red demun beat MX985 every time. I love my red demun.
 
I can only hope I will surpass the Demun with my own mods 
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 but until then and probably even after I will continue to hold Mr. Kandela's Demuns in the highest regard.
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 8:59 PM Post #17,561 of 78,383
Either one of these two $0.50 Y-cables will make good 1-to1 replacements. Almost unchanged E808+ sound. Perhaps a bit less grainy.

https://world.taobao.com/item/42830862853.htm
https://world.taobao.com/item/522091837778.htm

PS: Be careful opening the shell. Recommend masking tape to hold driver & front cover together at earliest possible moment. And only remove just before closing up.

I'd also like to recommend these, a bit more expensive but, they work very well with the e808+. I bought them from aliexpress first, then found I them on taobao and bought more.

http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=522553643625
 
Feb 12, 2017 at 9:28 PM Post #17,562 of 78,383
I'd also like to recommend these, a bit more expensive but, they work very well with the e808+. I bought them from aliexpress first, then found I them on taobao and bought more.

http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=522553643625

 
Yeah, a more polished sound than stock. But I find them a bit laid back for my taste with the mids set a bit further back. Yet another good cable option for E808+!
 
Feb 13, 2017 at 1:09 AM Post #17,563 of 78,383
Pop the 808 open and recable it! If you can't do that yourself i seem to remember you live in diy heaven :blush:

Done that... or rather, tried that but end up destroying all 3 earbuds, SAD. (damn, this Donald Trump impression just don't stop.)
 
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:16 AM Post #17,565 of 78,383
In China there is a consensus that PS600 is easy to drive and Ty650 hard to drive ,and I feel the same with those comments from taobao.

 
I don't think that PS600 are very easy to drive. True, I can get acceptable volume from a low-power source but not acceptable sound quality. Of all my high-impedance buds, I think that Yinman 500 are the easiest to drive.
 

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