e3c and er6....

[AintJoM0mma]

I ordered a pair of ER6's over the Shure E3c. After more recent posts and reading in the reviews section im starting to wonder if the people who said the er6's beat the e3's are just ety biased. Did I made the right choice?.....Should I have gone with the e3c's ???

 

[gsferrari]

Both are good choices. Both have their drawbacks. Just focus on what they do well and learn to enjoy them...thats the way to handle anything related to audio really...thats my secret at least

 

[DJGeorgeT]

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Originally Posted by AintJoM0mma I ordered a pair of ER6's over the Shure E3c. After more recent posts and reading in the reviews section im starting to wonder if the people who said the er6's beat the e3's are just ety biased. Did I made the right choice?.....Should I have gone with the e3c's ???

I don't know what 'ety biased' means. If there is such thing, then there most certainly is a 'shure biased'. Many of the folks who like the E3 have never heard the ER6, so their opinion is one sided and is based on their purchasing choice. As you know...more expensive is always better...

 

[gsferrari]

True but between the ER6 and E3C I would definitely go for the E3C because it encapsulates the Detail of the ER6 with a little more bass which is sadly missing from the ER6.

However the ER6 by themselves are not bad at all and between the ER6 and E2C however I choose the E2C because of better bass...

When you are using it as a part of a portable setup - detail etc. doesnt really matter. Bass is VERY important to me because it sets the foundation for the sound...without a foundation it is perilous to venture into the upper storeys

If you have ordered the ER6 dont fret - it is a good choice...it just fails to do bass adequately but for some people thats not a big deal.

 

[plainsong]

I'd go for the er6's. The e3c had no detail at all. All the information just gets jumbled up. There is more bass though. And if you'd never heard the etys, who knows, maybe you'd like the shures. But I just can't get why there's all this e3c love ATM, they're headache-inducing.

 

[gaijin]

I've owned both. The er6 is a good choice. You can always get more bass using the equalizer on your source, if you feel the need for it. Many people, including myself, find the e3 "muddy" and that cannot be corrected using your source.

In terms of comfort, I also preferred the er6. The e3 have a bend shape and the cord is meant to go over and around your ears. I found them very awkward.

 

[Earwax]

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Originally Posted by plainsong I'd go for the er6's. The e3c had no detail at all. All the information just gets jumbled up. There is more bass though. And if you'd never heard the etys, who knows, maybe you'd like the shures. But I just can't get why there's all this e3c love ATM, they're headache-inducing.

I really don't have any problem with the E3s. I like them enough that I'm not even tempted to try the ER6. For me, the triple flange provides the best isolation, but the bass is overwhelming, still it's a very usable combination for noisy situations. But, using the foamies I find the bass much more pleasant, whether it's because the seal isn't as tight or because of how deep in the ear the sound tube sits, it no longer everwhelms and hides the highs. Adding a portable amp helps a bit too, making the sound a bit "fuller". Finding a combination that worked for me took a lot of fussing as well as learning to tolerate something stuck in my ear, but in the end I think it's been worth the fuss.

 

[hk29]

http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=401083

ecost has the Shure E3C ("C" version) for $118.99 free shipping - sounds hot to me!!

I would have bought a pair if I didn't have the Ety 4RP.

 

[DJGeorgeT]

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Originally Posted by hk29 http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=401083 ecost has the Shure E3C ("C" version) for $118.99 free shipping - sounds hot to me!! I would have bought a pair if I didn't have the Ety 4RP.

unfortunately, even at that low price of $119, I still think that the value/price of the E3 still does not beat the value/price of the ER6. A lot of folks have bought the E3 because frankly...the E3 has become affordable. It is just very tempting to buy something that used to sell at $180 for $119. It does not mean that the E3 is good.

 

[Earwax]

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Originally Posted by DJGeorgeT unfortunately, even at that low price of $119, I still think that the value/price of the E3 still does not beat the value/price of the ER6. A lot of folks have bought the E3 because frankly...the E3 has become affordable. It is just very tempting to buy something that used to sell at $180 for $119. It does not mean that the E3 is good.

While you're right that I would not have purchased the E3 at $180, it was mostly ergonomic issues that pushed me towards the E3 and away from the ER6. The variety of sleeves available, especially since most people were saying the grey flex sleeves were best (even though those actually didn't work out for me), was a big selling point. I see the heavier cable vs. the ER as an advantage, too, at least it looks more sturdy. And I like the routing the cable over the ear design.

 

[DJGeorgeT]

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Originally Posted by Earwax While you're right that I would not have purchased the E3 at $180, it was mostly ergonomic issues that pushed me towards the E3 and away from the ER6. The variety of sleeves available, especially since most people were saying the grey flex sleeves were best (even though those actually didn't work out for me), was a big selling point. I see the heavier cable vs. the ER as an advantage, too, at least it looks more sturdy. And I like the routing the cable over the ear design.

I comprehend your buying thought process, but to say that the E3 is ergonomic and by implication that the ER6 is not...well...it is simply incorrect. First and foremost because you have never tried the ER6 and if you have never tried it, you simply cannot know that your intuition, opinion, or impressions are correct. The E3 has more fitting options true, but if you were to try the ER6 you would realize that these are designed so well that they fit like earplugs with either flanges or foamies. The ER6 is actually more comfortable IMO than the ER4.

As far as the cable, I am going to say this. I had a Shure E2 that had, what it seemed like, a very sturdy and thick cable go bad on me as well as many other users here on head-fi. On the other hand, I have had my ER6 for months and I throw it in my back pack and it has not gone bad. I have heard very little complaints about the ER6. Field performance is far more important than appearances.

 

[Earwax]

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Originally Posted by DJGeorgeT I comprehend your buying thought process, but to say that the E3 is ergonomic and by implication that the ER6 is not...well...it is simply incorrect. First and foremost because you have never tried the ER6 and if you have never tried it, you simply cannot know that your intuition, opinion, or impressions are correct. The E3 has more fitting options true, but if you were to try the ER6 you would realize that these are designed so well that they fit like earplugs with either flanges or foamies. The ER6 is actually more comfortable IMO than the ER4.

Got any closeup pictures of the ER6 in someone's ear? Two things still bother me from the pictures that I have seen of them. 1 - the sound tube looks wide - I have small ears, I really suspect that I'd have problems with anything wider than the E3/ER4/E5. 2 - it looks like they stick out more than the E3 or E2, true or not? It would make a difference laying down on your side I think?

 

[DJGeorgeT]

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Originally Posted by Earwax Got any closeup pictures of the ER6 in someone's ear? Two things still bother me from the pictures that I have seen of them. 1 - the sound tube looks wide - I have small ears, I really suspect that I'd have problems with anything wider than the E3/ER4/E5. 2 - it looks like they stick out more than the E3 or E2, true or not? It would make a difference laying down on your side I think?

I'll take a photo when I can borrow a camera. I also have small ears and I used to use the smallest flex sleeves with the E3. The ER6 goes all the way inside with the flanges. Since the ER6's body is rubberized, it is quite comfy. I have layed on my side with them on. With the foams, they will stick out a little more. I have not layed on my side with the foamies. I use the flanges far more than the foamies because I do not want to keep buying the foamies. On the road, I wear my ER6s like the Shure earphones. The cable instead of going out at the bottom, goes at the top and I wrap it around the back of my ears.