[Mike Scarpitti]

Has anybody had this happen? I lost an auction (headphones) to someone who turned out to be a dead-beat. The seller is asking me for the high bid I made that lost ($100) instead of simply 'more than' the next highest bidder's bid ($45). Since the high bidder's bid is thrown out, why do I have to match it? Shouldn't I have to pay only $46?

 

[Mike Scarpitti]

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Originally posted by Mike Scarpitti Has anybody had this happen? I lost an auction (headphones) to someone who turned out to be a dead-beat. The seller is asking me for the high bid I made that lost ($100) instead of simply 'more than' the next highest bidder's bid ($45). Since the high bidder's bid is thrown out, why do I have to match it? Shouldn't I have to pay only $46?

The bids:

dead beat: EUR 102.02
me: 101.02
next highest: 45.00

 

[Moguta]

Take this up with eBay, not the head-fi message boards!

 

[MagusG]

It's his sale, he can ask whatever he wants, if you don't wanna pay that much, you don't have to. Quite whining and learn to use the edit button.
-Mag

 

[vwap]

Once his deal with the winning bidder falls through, he has no obligation to sell it to you for any price. The fact that your high bid was high enough (and still got outbid) shows that you were willing to pay the price. If you don't want it, just tell him that and move on.

 

[Mike Scarpitti]

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Originally posted by MagusG It's his sale, he can ask whatever he wants, if you don't wanna pay that much, you don't have to. Quite whining and learn to use the edit button. -Mag

But it's for an mdr-e484!

 

[vwap]

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Originally posted by Mike Scarpitti But it's for an mdr-e484!

Maybe you can use the cash towards some headphones that don't suck?...

 

[KJ869]

This should be in members lounge, not in headphones btw... mod?

 

[Hirsch]

You lost the auction. He's making you an offer based on your bid. You can accept or reject it...your choice. He has absolutely no obligation to offer you any option to buy at all, and choice of price is his. If you want to pay less, make a counteroffer. All he can do is say no.

 

[Mike Scarpitti]

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Originally posted by Hirsch You lost the auction. He's making you an offer based on your bid. You can accept or reject it...your choice. He has absolutely no obligation to offer you any option to buy at all, and choice of price is his. If you want to pay less, make a counteroffer. All he can do is say no.

I've done so. I have a feeling that he had a friend bid real high just to see what my bid was. The next highest bid was eu 45. I told him I'd go 46.

 

[Polygon]

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Originally posted by Mike Scarpitti I've done so. I have a feeling that he had a friend bid real high just to see what my bid was. The next highest bid was eu 45. I told him I'd go 46.

Well, unless you can prove that to eBay you are stuck with Hirsch's advice. I am a long time eBay member and seller. It is exactly as Hirsch has said. The seller can choose to offer you any amount between the last highest bid and your highest bid on the second chance offer.

If he were a smart seller he wouldn't have his buddy bid up just to see how far you would go to offer you a second chance offer. Because if you refuse he is stuck paying the listing fees unless he re-lists and it sells the second time around.

 

[vwap]

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Originally posted by Polygon If he were a smart seller he wouldn't have his buddy bid up just to see how far you would go to offer you a second chance offer. Because if you refuse he is stuck paying the listing fees unless he re-lists and it sells the second time around.

Although he _can_ file a NPB (Non-Paying Bidder) report and get his final value fees back... It takes a while to file, but I don't believe you're required to post negative feedback for the winning bidder.

 

[fyleow]

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Originally posted by vwap Although he _can_ file a NPB (Non-Paying Bidder) report and get his final value fees back... It takes a while to file, but I don't believe you're required to post negative feedback for the winning bidder.

That's not the smartest thing to do, if you have 3 or more NPBs they can ban you.

 

[mbriant]

I've had the same thing happen to me twice. I agree with Mike's logic ... even if you did make a proxy bid for $100, if the deadbeat hadn't driven the price way up, you would/should have won at $46. To me, that's the fair price.

But as others have said, it's the seller's call. If you don't like his offer...make him a counter-offer.

 

[pikawel]

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Originally posted by mbriant I've had the same thing happen to me twice. I agree with Mike's logic ... even if you did make a proxy bid for $100, if the deadbeat hadn't driven the price way up, you would/should have won at $46. To me, that's the fair price. But as others have said, it's the seller's call. If you don't like his offer...make him a counter-offer.

Yeah, that is pretty ridiculous. I also agree with Mike but like what's been said, make your counter-offer and then tell him and his friend to go screw themselves.

Check his previous auctions and see if that guy has routinely bid on his items. Shill bidding is troubbbbble.

The winning bidder, "sagacious88147," is a new user (created w/in last 30 days). The seller, tin25$, is a first-timer (all of his previous feedback was left from purchasing) so, unfortunately, you can't check to see if he's done something like this before.