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DX200=Affordable High End Audio. Dual ES9028Pro dacs. AMP1, AMP3, AMP5, AMP7 & AMP8 ***Firmware support now up for AMP9***

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by paul - ibasso, Dec 17, 2015.
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  1. Layman1
    What I need is one Master AMP.
    One AMP to rule them all
    One AMP to find them.
    One AMP to bring them all
    And in the darkness bind them :p
     
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  2. Layman1
    AMP3 vs AMP5 on DX200 - quick impressions.



    Volume matched roughly by ear (AMP5 required about 6 clicks more)

    IEM’s: iBasso IT03 (big soundstage, detail and clarity, DD providing substantial but accurate low end, slightly recessed mids).

    Cable: iBasso CB13

    Songs used:

    ‘Ophelia’ by Madeleine Peyroux

    ‘All Over You’ by Live

    ‘Little Sister’ by Jewel

    ‘Art of War’ by Anberlin

    ‘Motion Picture Scarecrow’ by Hobotalk (not mentioned below for brevity, but I preferred the AMP3 on this, although it was close).



    AMP5:



    ‘Ophelia’:

    Feeling of softness.

    More intimate (smaller soundstage?)

    I notice some details pop out a bit more (soft taps as she bridges her fingers on the guitar top, or bumps a knuckle against it)

    More musical, analogue, organic

    Vocal stands out, rich timbre

    Sounds seem thicker and with more weight and presence

    Ophelia 01:23 - 01:28 guitar fingerpicking (right of centre): first part 01:23-01:25) is barely audible - placement not separated enough from the vocals and percussion, so it gets a bit buried.

    The second part (01:26-01:28) is fine though.



    ‘All Over You’:

    More warm, more organic, less sharp

    Vocal richer

    Guitar richer, thicker, more texture

    More musical, cohesive, engaging

    I’m feeling the music more

    Slightly more bass weight and low end presence

    Less feeling of openness and spaciousness than on AMP3



    ‘Little Sister’ by Jewel:

    Thickness and weight of guitar picking

    Closed in, congested, lost the wide, spacious feeling of AMP3 (even with the IT03!)

    Everything sounds a bit muted and homogeneous in comparison.



    ‘Art of War’:

    More cohesive and musical. The strong feeling engagement comes from this. 00:11 - 00:18 the bassline, percussion and keyboard percussion effects all gel together in such a way that they are greater than the sum of their parts and the overall feeling is incredibly engaging. The bass is perhaps more



    AMP3:



    ‘Ophelia’:

    More fatiguing

    More sharp and clear

    More neutral (in comparison to AMP5)

    Greater feeling of separation?

    Greater height in the soundstage

    Ophelia 01:23 - 01:28 guitar fingerpicking (right of centre): first part 01:23-01:25) is more audible and distinct, although it’s somewhat buried in the song itself.



    ‘All Over You’:

    Cymbals have a musical ringing quality.

    Energy, clarity, dynamic sound

    Low end there, but not emphasised and not very powerful

    Big soundstage

    Vocals a bit thin.

    A bit sharp and fatiguing



    ‘Little Sister’:

    (Only acoustic fingerpicked guitar and female vocal in this song, which was recorded live. Nothing else in it.)

    Breathtaking clarity, soundstage size, purity.

    Each note sings.

    No sharpness or fatigue.



    ‘Art of War’:



    I notice that compared with AMP5, the keyboard percussion effects lack weight and presence here, which stops them binding together the other percussion and the bassline.

    The bass has more clarity and definition; although I think the AMP5 has a bit more weight or emphasis in the low end overall, the way that AMP3 presents the bass here actually seems to make it stand out more and make it more effective; I assume this is related to the fact that the synthetic percussion lacks the equal prominence afforded it with the AMP5?



    Conclusion:

    Different songs sound better with different AMP units.

    This is not entirely unexpected :p
     
  3. Whitigir
    You want to have 1 women that rule all the man ? Yeah, exactly why 1 amp module can’t rule all the music lol!
     
  4. Layman1
    Regarding my rather epic 'impressions' post above, I thought I ought to clarify something for those who don't know:
    I have autism and a natural sensitivity to certain frequencies etc; more so than most people.
    Furthermore, if I'm ill or very stressed or whatever, my hearing sensitivity can 'flare up' and become much worse, which I think was the case this morning as I'm feeling a bit under the weather!

    So when I talk about 'sharpness' or 'fatigue', please bear in mind that this based on my medical conditions and is unlikely to apply to you! :p

    On the other hand, although we all hear things differently of course, all the good stuff I wrote probably *will* apply to you :D
     
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  5. Whitigir
    I don’t know, but it seem you are saying amp5 is more musical and smoother than amp 3. While someone else said amp4s is even more musical than amp5....then this amp4s is different than the Amp4 (none S)
     
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  6. Layman1
    Bear in mind, this was just an unplanned, spur-of-the-moment set of impressions as opposed to a detailed critical review.
    It was as much a journey of discovery for me and trying to express what I was hearing/feeling.
    I think I would concur with your comment (about my comments lol).
    But equally, bear in mind that if you were to listen to AMP1 and then AMP3, you would probably make the same comments about AMP3. It's all relative, as you know of course :)
     
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  7. icefalkon
    Geek.

    :wink:

    lol
     
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  8. mrmoto050
    Changing it up a little with Amp 5.
    20180415_091845.jpg
     
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  9. BlueWindNoise
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    Oh, I didn't get nearly those options when I called DHL. It's supposed to arrive at the distribution center here today, and be out for delivery tomorrow. However, they said it's likely to be delivered after 2 PM and I'm headed out of town prior to that. So, with all the hype here, I think I'm going to see if I can make a special trip to the distribution center in the morning and pick it up. Seems silly to have it sit here waiting for me when I have 2 upcoming flights and several nights in a hotel with more than the usual time to listen...
     
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  10. mrmoto050
    Yes, but I don't think it's Aptx. I listen to Vmoda 2's and B&w P7 on way to work all of the time. 1 1/2 hr commute . But the DX200 makes it bearable
     
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  11. singleended58
    I heard the same even though not the same musics or songs. Amp3 is more forward with dynamic sound and big soundstage whereas amp5 is more softer, sweeter but less soundstage and non fatigue. Let see amp4s sounds differently after receiving it tomorrow. Stay tuned!
    Btw, have anybody noticed after installing the new 2.9.198 L1 FW the charging time is getting longer and the DX200 gets cooler!
     
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  12. foxtrot
    Overcharging the battery with less current? This is not good for the battery ... (( There are specialists?
     
  13. Lurker0
    If you feel such a way, I recommend you to do discharge (until it turns off) and then charge overnight at least once. It is important to charge DX200 being turned on. Because you couldn't turn it on when the battery was discharged, put it on charger for 15 minutes, turn on and leave on the charger. This way Android's kernel will adopt the new charging parameters faster. It will adopt them in a week of usual use anyway.
     
  14. Lurker0
    On the contrary, with 2.8.198L1 the battery can't be overcharged.
     
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  15. singleended5863
    Agreed. But the battery is not fully charged yet. How can it be overcharged? Btw, the same current as before and after upgrading to 2.8.198 L1.
     
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