[Vitaly2017]

Did u read the picture of akm4497 ? 128Db dynamic range in stereos and 131Db in Mono (each chip per channel). So, higher is better. Can you hear it ?

I don’t want to debate, I will mostly aim for dual configuration. People pay $3800 for an upgraded cables. Makes no senses to use single chip lol

Yes but dx200 spec show 125db and lpgt 127db so ...then


My hdv820 had a single 9018 and it was superior sounding then dx200. And who cares it desktop or not it had 1 dac not 2. I never felt like it was laking behind.
Mostly to it never hissed at me to.

 

[Whitigir]

Yes but dx200 spec show 125db and lpgt 127db so ....

Show me something that can measure beyond 125Db , test equipments, lab equipments...I don’t mean a chip...I mean a completed device, DAC, or Player

 

[jerick70]

So we're having a debate about which is better the DX200 or the LPGT?

 

[Whitigir]

So we're having a debate about which is better the DX200 or the LPGT?

No, we are not, just about DAC paper specifications. I have yet to hear LPGT

 

[Vitaly2017]

Not really who the best just sorting some business out over here lol

 

[Vitaly2017]

@Whitigir explane me whats the advantage to have 2 dacs. Sennheiser said 2 was an overkill because 1 dac chip of 9018 had 8 section of dacs inside of it. So 4 each channel they said was plenty good and reduced some harmonoc distprtions! And they do test it senmheiser is a well reputated company for high end gear.
So was it absolutly necessary to have 2 dacs in a dap. I dont think it is seriously. It can sound as good with 1 I am more than sure of this. Cause I heard it my self. Tiger ears dont lie remember that

 

[jerick70]

Ah OK. Well cool. I've been wanting to listen to the LTPG and the Sony WM1Z. According to Mimouille they LTPG 2017 and Touch sound the same in his review on Headpie.

 

[Vitaly2017]

I got 2 persons confirming that the hiss on lpgt is barely hearable and 1 other was lpg2017 said dont hear it much.
They bothe have sensitive iems and 1 had phantoms like me

 

[Whitigir]

@Whitigir explane me whats the advantage to have 2 dacs. Sennheiser said 2 was an overkill because 1 dac chip of 9018 had 8 section of dacs inside of it. So 4 each channel they said was plenty good and reduced some harmonoc distprtions! And they do test it senmheiser is a well reputated company for high end gear.
So was it absolutly necessary to have 2 dacs in a dap. I dont think it is seriously. It can sound as good with 1 I am more than sure of this. Cause I heard it my self. Tiger ears dont lie remember that

Ok, you want me to simplify it to the simplest ? Noises

IC chip is like a miniaturized computer, and just like anything that processing and consuming power, it generate noises. Therefore, you are using multiple channel within a chip, it self generated noises can easily plague all channels and degrade the sound quality . Now, if you use 2 chips, they are separated, and their noises is not plaguing one another.

That is the simplest reason and explanations. There are more to it

 

[Vitaly2017]

Ok, you want me to simplify it to the simplest ? Noises

IC chip is like a miniaturized computer, and just like anything that processing and consuming power, it generate noises. Therefore, you are using multiple channel within a chip, it self generated noises can easily plague all channels and degrade the sound quality . Now, if you use 2 chips, they are separated, and their noises is not plaguing one another.

That is the simplest reason and explanations. There are more to it

I heard 0 hiss with my single 9018 so that dont prove its true!

 

[Whitigir]

I got 2 persons confirming that the hiss on lpgt is barely hearable and 1 other was lpg2017 said dont hear it much.
They bothe have sensitive iems and 1 had phantoms like me

Barely bearable = it is audible = it hisses, period. If it is audible hiss, I rather buy $950 device than a...$2800 device

You want to know the best way to deal with DAP and IEMS ? Follow what twister said, use higher impedance IEMS, get away from Phantom...sad, but true...unless you want to buy DMP-Z1 and see if it hisses

 

[Vitaly2017]

Now why I hear hiss on a dx200 which has stelar super specs I cant figure it out honestly. This dap should be dead silent

 

[Whitigir]

I heard 0 hiss with my single 9018 so that dont prove its true!

Hisses is not floor noises and electrical noises my friend, you are confused

 

[Vitaly2017]

Barely bearable = it is audible = it hisses, period. If it is audible hiss, I rather buy $950 device than a...$2800 device

You want to know the best way to deal with DAP and IEMS ? Follow what twister said, use higher impedance IEMS, get away from Phantom...sad, but true...unless you want to buy DMP-Z1 and see if it hisses

Hey hugo2 dont hiss I tried it 0 absolutely 0 like my hdv

 

[Vitaly2017]

Hisses is not floor noises and electrical noises my friend, you are confused

Oh uea well I talk about floore noise. What is hiss then a squiky skwirky sound lol