[Cyanide]

i just bought a new (my first) DVD-Audio cd. The standard cd was going for 32 AUD and the DVD-Audio one for 18 AUD so i thought why not. It plays perfectly on both the DVD player and the PS2 but i only get the surround audio option. It says on the package that it will only play in Advance Resolution stereo or standard stereo using a dedicated DVD-Audio player. Now i though to myself when i bought it that i could just easily dubb it to MD using the optical cable like i normally do , but my md says NO COPY when i try to do so. I assume this is because the MD recorder cant deal with surround signal , or is it because of the upped sampling rate? I know my MZR-909 has a sampling rate converter but it just refuses to record. Can anyone shed some light on the issue? Or do i have to buy a dedicated DVD-Audio player to get the desired Advadnce resolution stereo to be able to make an MD copy of the cd? BTW the CD is the A.I soundtrack and my hardware is an MZR-909 and Pioneer DVD player.

 

[kerelybonto]

Yes, the digital signal coming out of the DVD-A player is completely different from a normal 44.1kHz 16-bit CD audio signal. The MD's DAC cannot read it and so cannot record it.

The only way you'll be able to record DVD-A at this point is by analog means.

kerely

 

[redshifter]

actually i am able to make md copies of my dvd's (the non copy protected ones anyway) via digital. what you do is change the digital output on you dvdp from "bitstream" to "pcm". my md deck gets a digital signal at 48khz doing this, and makes wonderful recordings. let me know if this works for you.

 

[lini]

Cyanide, redshifter: Even if the S/P-DIF-out is set to the right format, it might not work with some discs, because some come with the SCMS-copybit already set on the original, so that unmodded non-professional units will refuse the copying...

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

P.S.: There are copy-processors to resolve this problem, though. Another solution would be looping the signal through a computer with an appropriate soundcard that allows cobybit-manipulation such as the Terratec DMX 6fire...

 

[Cyanide]

Yeah i hear ya about the differences in 5.1 signal vs standard stereo signal out of the digital. Just curious though that the sound does acctualy play however it dosent record and the more i think about the NO COPY it displays when i try , i think i can account it down to the SCMS copy protection.
thoughts?

 

[redshifter]

right lini, that's why i mentioned "non copy protected". some of my music dvd's are protected, some aren't. no biggie, i just use the analog inputs for those, and with a good md deck the difference is small. i have heard some sound cards will strip the "no copy" bit as well, although i haven't tried that yet.

cyanide,
if you connect the dvdp to your md via digital, and you can hear the music from your md player, then it is receiving and decoding the pcm signal from you dvdp. if it still says "no copy", then yes, it is copy protected. try some other discs, there are some that are not protected (beastie boys criterion anthology, for example). also, if you set your dvdp output to pcm & dolby 5.1, the dvdp should combine (or matrix) the 5.1 channels (expect maybe for the lfe) into stereo automatically. there is no need to record from the dolby stereo track (unless of course it is a better sounding mix). also, if your dvd audio disc has an uncompressed stereo pcm track, try that one, they usually sound better than the dd track.