Downgrading to the Dt770? Too late=]

[denl82]

So I'm listening to ambient on my dt880's, and for some odd reason, I start missing the superior instrument instrument separation found on the k701, which I sold last week.

So I decide to bury my frustration by switching to some drum and bass, and I said, what the hey, lemme try on the dt770's, we'll see how that is. And boy, was I caught off guard. I've always touted the dt880's as a technically better headphone than the dt770's all the way through, but today held a suprise. For some reason(after I got past the shotty freq. representation of the dt770's), the dt770 sounded more airy, had better instrument separation, and of course that boomin boomin' bass much desired for D'N'B. Too late. I'm giving my dt770's to a friend once the new earpads arrive.

Grr, what a world

 

[GreatDane]

What new ear pads would that be?

 

[Towert7]

Yea, when you use new equipment that helps teach you new aspects of music, whether things to do with bass, comfort, etc, it's always fun to go back to old headphones and see what you did not previously realize about the headphones.

This is boubly true for not only training your ears to notice changes, but also because of upgrades in other headphone equipment that helps these new musical aspects shine through.

I still own my DT770pro 250ohm, and yea...... coming off my Darths it's a bit of a shock, but after about a minute I get used to the signature and realize just why I liked those can's in the first place. Especially when a song comes along where the can's bring a smile to my face.

In hindsight, do you think there is as much difference between the DT770pro and the DT880 (2005?) as you initially thought...?

 

[denl82]

Sup guys=]
I'm getting just velour earpads for the dt770. The old ones are grey and compressed out of shape so. I wanted the can to look fresh before I shipped them off to my friend=]

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Originally Posted by Towert7 /img/forum/go_quote.gif In hindsight, do you think there is as much difference between the DT770pro and the DT880 (2005?) as you initially thought...?

You're spot on, cuz when I was a/b'n the two a few months after my initial comparison, I realized that the differences between them aren't so big. It really depends on the material being played. But with songs, the difference(the recessed mids--or whatever it is) is quite noticeable on the dt770 after switching from the dt880. But, like you said, after a minute, I adjust and just have a blast. The big difference comes when I'm playing Quake 2(my long favorite past-time(?)), which has sounds I know very VERY well. But all in all, the sound differences are trivial in the overall enjoyment I get from either one of these cans. In the end, I have to say that the dt770 is a VERY good can=] Oh yea, I'm using the Dt880 2005 version=]

 

[Eddie500]

I just recently had to use my Dt-770's for my laptop, I normally use it with my X-fi sound card. I must say they sound great on my laptop, minus the bass. So without a better amp with the dt-770's you lose the bass but they sound just like most other headphones with weak base.

It must be because of the low powered amp in my dell notebook, the lows are just not so boomy. This makes the headphones have much more mid-range and high range, more like my grado sr-80 sound. But the bass is weak although not lacking, I guess there is just not enough power to get that boomy bass.

But I think the dt-770's seem to have recessed mids because it brings out the bass so much better then other headphones, but I don't know if the mids are really turned down lower. What do you think?

I do want the low base frequency for gaming, but for music listening it doesn't sound so bad when powered with a weak amp and not having the bass take over.

 

[denl82]

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Originally Posted by Eddie500 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I just recently had to use my Dt-770's for my laptop, I normally use it with my X-fi sound card. I must say they sound great on my laptop, minus the bass. So without a better amp with the dt-770's you lose the bass but they sound just like most other headphones with weak base. It must be because of the low powered amp in my dell notebook, the lows are just not so boomy. This makes the headphones have much more mid-range and high range, more like my grado sr-80 sound. But the bass is weak although not lacking, I guess there is just not enough power to get that boomy bass. But I think the dt-770's seem to have recessed mids because it brings out the bass so much better then other headphones, but I don't know if the mids are really turned down lower. What do you think? I do want the low base frequency for gaming, but for music listening it doesn't sound so bad when powered with a weak amp and not having the bass take over.

Ya, I understand your desire for the bass to not overtake the music, hehe. That's the main reason why I wanted to upgrade from the dt770. But sometimes I just accepted it, and had fun all the same. One thing I've heard about the dt770's sound signature is the bass response is elevated, or as Beyerdynamic calls it, it uses a "bass reflex" system, which masks the otherwise fine mids.

Funny, I had an opposite experience using my dt770's with a laptop. The bass became too overpowering, but everything else sounded ok. Out of my x-fi, they sound excellent

 

[Towert7]

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Originally Posted by Eddie500 /img/forum/go_quote.gif But I think the dt-770's seem to have recessed mids because it brings out the bass so much better then other headphones, but I don't know if the mids are really turned down lower. What do you think?

Haha, you can look at it two different ways. Either the mids are normal and the bass is too much, or the bass is just right and the mids are not enough.

Either way though, there is a discrepancy between the bass volume and the mid volume in general.


Also, on a side note, when switching to a "cheaper" source, you should still have roughly the same amount of bass. When going to a "better" source, you should have better detailed bass, with more control, but it should be roughly the same. If you are really noticing a large decrease in the bass, you may want to first check the audio settings just to make sure it's setup correctly.