Don't Lose Hope. Every Decade has a Great Band.

May 5, 2007 at 6:29 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 27

Jahn

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So yeah the 2000's are looking grim. But it always works out.

For instance, near the death of disco, which was such a juggernaut i'm sure everyone lost hope, the late 70's/early 80's fought back with some crazy stuff that was such an antithesis of the mainstream that, well, it took something like disco to spawn it
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Just thought of it while watching this-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxr7wYFDKvU&NR=1

BADASS.

edit- but on the other hand i found a clip of our very own Mandy Moore covering XTC...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxdej...elated&search=
 
May 5, 2007 at 7:45 AM Post #3 of 27
I don't agree with the disco characterization, but it does remind me of a poll once that went something like which band was the most influential on West Coast punk (X, Circle Jerks, Black Flag, etc.). The Eagles won, because small garage bands, etc. were inspired to form once they had someone to hate.
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May 5, 2007 at 1:00 PM Post #4 of 27
The 2000s look grim? Man are you listening to the wrong music. 2007 is already a fantastic year for new albums, and there have been dozens of truly phenomenal albums and bands that have come out in the last 7 years.
 
May 5, 2007 at 2:21 PM Post #5 of 27
I agree with Coltrane. It took me until 2005 to finally except that the 90s was over. Finally after taking myself out of the mainstream and getting my hand into a bit of the indie scene I've found some truly awesome music. There's some really great stuff made after 2000
 
May 5, 2007 at 2:27 PM Post #6 of 27
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I agree with Coltrane. It took me until 2005 to finally except that the 90s was over. Finally after taking myself out of the mainstream and getting my hand into a bit of the indie scene I've found some truly awesome music. There's some really great stuff made after 2000


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May 5, 2007 at 3:20 PM Post #7 of 27
OK, I'll play.....

50's = Elvis
60's = Beatles
70's = Led Zeppelin (Pink Floyd honorable mention)
80's = ?? U2 ?? The Cure ?? Metallica ??
90's = ?? Nirvana ?? Pearl Jam ?? RHCP ??
00's = ??
 
May 5, 2007 at 3:42 PM Post #8 of 27
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So yeah the 2000's are looking grim. But it always works out.


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2000 - Kid A, The Moon and Antarctica, Stankonia, Marshall Mathers LP
2001 - Since I Left You, Is This It?, Ágætis Byrjun
2002 - YHF, Kill the Moonlight, Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, Original Pirate Material
2003 - Elephant, Chutes Too Narrow
2004 - Funeral, Franz Ferdinand
2005 - Illinois
2006 - Return to Cookie Mountain, Ys
2007 - Sounds of Silver, Neon Bible

Sure, not all of those are exactly classics in the sense that OK Computer was a classic, but you can't deny the amount of simply amazing new albums and artists every year.
 
May 5, 2007 at 4:13 PM Post #9 of 27
i do agree the 2000's have been very good for music (at least for me anyway), but unlike many decades before it, there doesn't seem to be one cultural and musical defining moment that screams "yeah... that was the ultimate 2000's album" or something like that. the 2000's spawned a whole slew of great albums and great artists, but it seems like a jumble of styles and all the greats are competing with each other for the top. well... that's how i see it so far.

in that sense, my vision of the past decades would probably look like this:
60's - The Beatles
70's - The Sex Pistols
80's - The Smiths
90's - Oasis (don't give them flack for who they are but see that they did create a cultural defining moment in music in the 90's; bands like Radiohead didn't)
00's - ??? i dunno, it's hard to pinpoint. maybe past this decade hindsight will be clearer.

and Jahn wasn't dissin' Disco, he was saying that people saw it as a threat to all things that was Rock. however, he's also saying ironically a lot of stuff that came out in the 80's that was considered Rock (especially modern rock/non-mainsteam of the time) was directly influenced from Disco. i wholeheartedly agree and thank the Disco age for it!
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May 5, 2007 at 4:23 PM Post #10 of 27
Luckily for those of us who lived through the seventies, disco/funk, punk, new wave and all those other anti-mainstream rock movements meant we never had to listen to tedious windbags like Led Zep or Pink Floyd. So without irony I can say thanks to Parliament for a song like Flashlight or Chic for Good Times, let alone the Sex Pistols for Pretty Vacant or Elvis Costello for Pump It Up. All classic music, all defining of its times, and all thankfully not classic rock.
 
May 5, 2007 at 4:38 PM Post #11 of 27
I suppose I just don't think much of the premise that one great band might be out there to save any particular decade. So while I admit that a band like Pink Floyd may be the polar opposite of anything I ever want to listen to, I am still left wondering just how they can be considered to be greater or more defining of the 70s than for example Sly and the Family Stone. I would have to narrow my definition of what is great in music a lot to go along with the idea that XTC and the new wave bands saved us from disco. Indeed some like Talking Heads and Gang of Four were obviously more than just influenced by disco/funk artists - in the case of Talking Heads people like Bernie Worrell from Parliament/Funkadelic guested on their albums and tours.
 
May 5, 2007 at 5:17 PM Post #12 of 27
I was originally planning to go through several prominent bands and albums from the present decade, but after sorting all of my music by date and taking note of how many of my post-2000 albums I am absolutely in love with... I'm not even going to attempt it.

While there have been some unforgettable and massively impactful albums in my life from earlier decades, I'm not in the least bit ashamed to say that the 00's have spawned much of my favorite music to date.
 
May 5, 2007 at 5:36 PM Post #13 of 27
Considering the musical high points being given for the 80s and 90s, I'm kinda hoping you guys don't like the 00s.
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But there's no reason to expect that like all art/science/philosophical breakthroughs, etc. will happen evenly across cultures and time periods.

On a side note what cultural defining moment happened with Oasis? Did I miss something?
 
May 5, 2007 at 5:41 PM Post #14 of 27
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So while I admit that a band like Pink Floyd may be the polar opposite of anything I ever want to listen to, I am still left wondering just how they can be considered to be greater or more defining of the 70s than for example Sly and the Family Stone.


Album sales and fan base would be fair indicators, not to mention standing the test of time in both of those areas.

You obviously have some personal axes to grind against Pink Floyd and "mainstream" music in general, but their influence and importance to the 70's cannot be denied.

SO cool to be different and anti-establishment, I know. What you fail to realize is that Pink Floyd was a THE cool/edgy/pioneer rock band of it's day.

LOVE Sly and the Family Stone, though
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May 5, 2007 at 5:54 PM Post #15 of 27
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On a side note what cultural defining moment happened with Oasis? Did I miss something?



You didnt listen to the This American Life episode all about how Oasis forever changed world culture?
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Oasis had absolutely no bearing on music or culture. If they never existed, this world and music would be exactly the same.
 

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