do beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 80 Ohm need an amp? mobile and PC use.
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(new to the audio scene so bear with me.)

I was going to purchase the 250ohms DT770 Pro for phone use as well as PC use but I realised that you need a hell of a powerful and expensive amp for them to work. So I decided to downgrade and maybe get the 80ohm version instead. Will I require an amp for these to perform to the maximum capability on my PC(whilst im home) and iPhone X(whilst commuting).

The motherboard I have is an Asus Maximus vii Ranger and it has a amp built into the motherboard I think. I also have 5.1 speakers connected into the Motherboard which takes up 3 3.5's (orange, black and green)

if I need an amp which one would you recommend I get?

I want to be able to use these headphones whilst I commute as well as whilst i'm on my PC.

if you have any recommendations please let me know.
 
Oct 29, 2018 at 7:26 PM Post #2 of 34
Hi I’m new the scene as well. But have had a pair of Shure SE846s and Arctis Pro Headphones for a while.

Mobile Phones are not nearly powerful enough to drive quality Earphones or Headphones. You may get some Volume but you won’t get Quality Sound.

I would recommend a Headphone (Amp / Dac) as they are purpose built and will give you far better sound.

If you are an iPhone user I would recommend the Fiio Q1Mk2. https://www.fiio.co.in/products/fiio-q1-mark-ii-portable-amplifier-dac

It’s fairly cheap, portable and offers good sound quality for its price.

Hope this helps.

Aaron.
 
Oct 29, 2018 at 9:21 PM Post #3 of 34
Hi I’m new the scene as well. But have had a pair of Shure SE846s and Arctis Pro Headphones for a while.

Mobile Phones are not nearly powerful enough to drive quality Earphones or Headphones. You may get some Volume but you won’t get Quality Sound.

I would recommend a Headphone (Amp / Dac) as they are purpose built and will give you far better sound.

If you are an iPhone user I would recommend the Fiio Q1Mk2. https://www.fiio.co.in/products/fiio-q1-mark-ii-portable-amplifier-dac

It’s fairly cheap, portable and offers good sound quality for its price.

Hope this helps.

Aaron.

Hi

Thanks for the reply.

Sounds good however I have been doing some research and I dont know which amp to pick for PC and mobile use.

1. FiiO Q1ii (2nd Gen) DAC and Headphone Amplifier - £88

2. FiiO E17 for K – Headphone Amplifier – Black - £89

3. FiiO A3 (E11 K), portable amplifier for headphones, black - £45

4. FiiO - E10K Olympus USB DAC and Headphone Amplifier - Black - £60

What are the differences and which would you recommend?

Thanks!
 
Oct 29, 2018 at 9:58 PM Post #4 of 34
Here is a useful read up on the Fiio mk2. If you have iphone its your best choice from your lineup. The others in your list I would not bother with if it was me.

You can use this on an android phone but you need to read the specifics at the end of the page in the link below.

https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/fiio-q1-mark-ii-apple-mfi-certified-dac-amp.22526/reviews

if you have an Android phone and want a simple solution I would use this https://www.fiio.com/a5


E10k will be a bit weak and maybe lacking features you want. The A3 is a portable headphone amp and not designed for pc use.
 
Oct 29, 2018 at 10:19 PM Post #5 of 34
(new to the audio scene so bear with me.)
I was going to purchase the 250ohms DT770 Pro for phone use as well as PC use but I realised that you need a hell of a powerful and expensive amp for them to work. So I decided to downgrade and maybe get the 80ohm version instead. Will I require an amp for these to perform to the maximum capability on my PC(whilst im home) and iPhone X(whilst commuting).
The motherboard I have is an Asus Maximus vii Ranger and it has a amp built into the motherboard I think. I also have 5.1 speakers connected into the Motherboard which takes up 3 3.5's (orange, black and green)
if I need an amp which one would you recommend I get?
I want to be able to use these headphones whilst I commute as well as whilst i'm on my PC.
if you have any recommendations please let me know.
All versions of the DT770 headphones really need to be used with a decent headphone amplifer, to sound their best.
 
Oct 30, 2018 at 1:46 AM Post #6 of 34
I'd like to answer your thread title, "do beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 80 Ohm need an amp for mobile and PC use?"

> Need
No, you do not need one. At best it will make a 5% difference if you have the ability to hear said difference. I run my DT 770 through my LG G7 and it works as intended. I don't usually listen to them at home, but they don't sound different enough to make me bring a DAC into work. If you want one, I'm sure the options you've found will all suit your purposes just fine.
 
Oct 30, 2018 at 5:03 AM Post #7 of 34
To clarify some important details.

Headphone (Amp / Dacs) have more benefit than merely volume increase. They also add additional functions such as hardware based toggles for Gain (Input Voltage) and Bass Boost.

This allows you to drive Headphones / IEMs and In Ears with greater efficiency and clarity, which is important for higher fidelity listening devices.

In addition you will have 2 primary outputs:
3.5mm unbalanced Audio jack for standard unbalanced driver based audio devices.

2.5mm balanced Audio jack for balanced driver based devices. Which is arguably the much better and purer sounding option if available.

So in any case a quality Amp / Dac will be a worthy investment I think.
 
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Oct 30, 2018 at 5:17 PM Post #8 of 34
To clarify some important details.

Headphone (Amp / Dacs) have more benefit than merely volume increase. They also add additional functions such as hardware based toggles for Gain (Input Voltage) and Bass Boost.

This allows you to drive Headphones / IEMs and In Ears with greater efficiency and clarity, which is important for higher fidelity listening devices.

In addition you will have 2 primary outputs:
3.5mm unbalanced Audio jack for standard unbalanced driver based audio devices.

2.5mm balanced Audio jack for balanced driver based devices. Which is arguably the much better and purer sounding option if available.

So in any case a quality Amp / Dac will be a worthy investment I think.

So for my case which Amp or Dac would you personally reccomend for PC gaming, movie and pc use as well as movie and music use on an iphone x?
 
Oct 30, 2018 at 5:18 PM Post #9 of 34
Here is a useful read up on the Fiio mk2. If you have iphone its your best choice from your lineup. The others in your list I would not bother with if it was me.

You can use this on an android phone but you need to read the specifics at the end of the page in the link below.

https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/fiio-q1-mark-ii-apple-mfi-certified-dac-amp.22526/reviews

if you have an Android phone and want a simple solution I would use this https://www.fiio.com/a5


E10k will be a bit weak and maybe lacking features you want. The A3 is a portable headphone amp and not designed for pc use.


Hi,
thank you for the response.
why would you recommend the Fiio mk 2 over any of the other products?

EDIT: if i am to get the mk2 should i also upgrade to the 250omhs dt770pro?
 
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Oct 30, 2018 at 5:19 PM Post #10 of 34
I'd like to answer your thread title, "do beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 80 Ohm need an amp for mobile and PC use?"

> Need
No, you do not need one. At best it will make a 5% difference if you have the ability to hear said difference. I run my DT 770 through my LG G7 and it works as intended. I don't usually listen to them at home, but they don't sound different enough to make me bring a DAC into work. If you want one, I'm sure the options you've found will all suit your purposes just fine.

Based on what i've read apparently amps help a hell of a lot on mobiles. When I use my current astro a40tr's on my iphone x, they have no bass at all and sound incredibly weak.
 
Oct 30, 2018 at 5:50 PM Post #11 of 34
So for my case which Amp or Dac would you personally recommend for PC gaming, movie and PC use as well as movie and music use on an iPhone x?

Both the Fiio Q1mk2 and the Fiio A5 work as Headphone Amplifier and Digital to Analog Converters. The Fiio Q1mk2 is best suited to Apple Devices as it is a MFI Certified Device. It can however be used with most Androids just fine if you read up on the specifics listed here. https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/fiio-q1-mark-ii-apple-mfi-certified-dac-amp.22526/reviews.

The Fiio A5 is best suited to Android Phones as it is OTG compatible and works with 99% of Android phones with no problems.

I like the Fiio Q1mk2 due to its compact size and features. which are listed here: https://www.fiio.com/q1mkii
 
Oct 30, 2018 at 6:06 PM Post #12 of 34
Both the Fiio Q1mk2 and the Fiio A5 work as Headphone Amplifier and Digital to Analog Converters. The Fiio Q1mk2 is best suited to Apple Devices as it is a MFI Certified Device. It can however be used with most Androids just fine if you read up on the specifics listed here. https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/fiio-q1-mark-ii-apple-mfi-certified-dac-amp.22526/reviews.

The Fiio A5 is best suited to Android Phones as it is OTG compatible and works with 99% of Android phones with no problems.

I like the Fiio Q1mk2 due to its compact size and features. which are listed here: https://www.fiio.com/q1mkii

Alright, thanks!

Do you think I could power the 250ohm version or would that be pushing it?
 
Oct 30, 2018 at 6:31 PM Post #13 of 34
The Fiio A5 is just a amp no dac in it.
 

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