[wtaylorbasil]

My set-up: Virginmedia Hub connected by Ethernet to TP-Link plugged to house electric. Similar connection from Onkyo Receiver to house electric. Music tracks ( Mp3 and FLAC) reside on Laptop windows 10 OS. Laptop on WiFi connection to Virginmrdia Home network (laptop not wired). Serviio 1.5.2 running on laptop. When music is played through Receiver, there is unacceptable drop-out. What could possibly be the cause? Any help most welcome. Thanks.

 

[yay101]

Tried a wired connection?

 

[wtaylorbasil]

  Tried a wired connection?

Connected laptop directly to receiver with Ethernet cable. Now receiver does not see Serviio server so I cannot select/play any tracks.
I cannot understand why this is with a direct connection. I need some basic help/instruction if there is any.
Thanks 

 

[yay101]

Yeah, the dhcp server in your router is needed to assign ip addresses so your components can talk to each other and route upnp traffic.
 
1. I'm assuming you only have the one cable?

2. Can you please download a upnp app like bubbleupnp on a phone or tablet and try to play back through it for me?

 

[wtaylorbasil]

  Yeah, the dhcp server in your router is needed to assign ip addresses so your components can talk to each other and route upnp traffic.
 
1. I'm assuming you only have the one cable?

2. Can you please download a upnp app like bubbleupnp on a phone or tablet and try to play back through it for me?

1. Yes only one cable.
2. Playing through bubbleupnp, and as I type it droppedout about 3 seconds and before on another track about 1sec.
 
I hope this gives you some clues-again another 3 sec drop-out.

 

[yay101]

It sounds very much like a wifi bandwidth problem. I would suggest buying another network cable and testing, and if that is the case deciding how you want to proceed eg:
 
Go wired vs new router (mightn't fix it anyway if its a laptop wifi issue) vs local storage at the end with the receiver.
 
If it is a bandwidth issue, i personally would get a raspberry pi and an external hdd to act as the upnp server. Of course i am familiar with that side of things so thats the easy choice for me. If your router is "crap" maybe replacing it is easier for you, or maybe even going wired or network over power are better looking options to you.
 
I'm subscribed to the thread though, so feel free to reply when you have more information or need some advice.

 

[wtaylorbasil]

  It sounds very much like a wifi bandwidth problem. I would suggest buying another network cable and testing, and if that is the case deciding how you want to proceed eg:
 
Go wired vs new router (mightn't fix it anyway if its a laptop wifi issue) vs local storage at the end with the receiver.
 
If it is a bandwidth issue, i personally would get a raspberry pi and an external hdd to act as the upnp server. Of course i am familiar with that side of things so thats the easy choice for me. If your router is "crap" maybe replacing it is easier for you, or maybe even going wired or network over power are better looking options to you.
 
I'm subscribed to the thread though, so feel free to reply when you have more information or need some advice.

Downloaded BubbleUPnP on my smartphone, selected local renderer, on library selected Serviio, media and I can see all my tracks on my laptop. Have been listening for 3 hours on my phone and just once or twice some drop-outs. So what does this indicate to you? Is it possible to play this via the Onkyo receiver to my HiFi system? 
Regards

 

[yay101]

I'm not familiar with the onkyo you have, does it show up as a renderer in bubble? How do you normally play to it?

The results with bubbleupnp are somewhat confusing, if its WiFi issues it should in theory be worse to your phone/ tablet unless your router has the hardware to dedicate to a few clients. Did you end up grabbing another network cable?

 

[wtaylorbasil]

I'm not familiar with the onkyo you have, does it show up as a renderer in bubble? How do you normally play to it?

The results with bubbleupnp are somewhat confusing, if its WiFi issues it should in theory be worse to your phone/ tablet unless your router has the hardware to dedicate to a few clients. Did you end up grabbing another network cable?

Onkyo manual: http://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/manuals/pdf/tx-nr609_manual_e.pdf 
In Bubble under Renderer group I can select (A) local renderer and (B) TX-NR 609. If A is selected, under Library group, I can select (1) Serviio or (2) Local media Server. If I select 1, I can access all the tracks on my laptop and play through my phone. If I select 2, I can only access the tracks on my phone and play.
 
If B was selected then no matter what I select in Library, either 1 or 2, only the tracks on my phone is accessible and can be played. The laptop is still on WiFi- no Ethernet connection. Onkyo connected to TP-Link adapter and Viginmedia Hub also connected to TP-Link adaptor.
 
While listening to the laptop tracks on my phone-which has no drop-outs, I can play the same tracks on Onkyo (it can see Serviio (User PC, User PC: Will's Laptop and BubbleUPnP Media Server (GT-19300- this is my phone), I select Serviio (via Onkyo remote control) and the same tracks have frequent drop-outs.
 
If required I could insert screen shots if you need.
Regards
william

 

[Cornan]

 

I'm not familiar with the onkyo you have, does it show up as a renderer in bubble? How do you normally play to it?

The results with bubbleupnp are somewhat confusing, if its WiFi issues it should in theory be worse to your phone/ tablet unless your router has the hardware to dedicate to a few clients. Did you end up grabbing another network cable?

Onkyo manual: http://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/manuals/pdf/tx-nr609_manual_e.pdf 
In Bubble under Renderer group I can select (A) local renderer and (B) TX-NR 609. If A is selected, under Library group, I can select (1) Serviio or (2) Local media Server. If I select 1, I can access all the tracks on my laptop and play through my phone. If I select 2, I can only access the tracks on my phone and play.
 
If B was selected then no matter what I select in Library, either 1 or 2, only the tracks on my phone is accessible and can be played. The laptop is still on WiFi- no Ethernet connection. Onkyo connected to TP-Link adapter and Viginmedia Hub also connected to TP-Link adaptor.
 
While listening to the laptop tracks on my phone-which has no drop-outs, I can play the same tracks on Onkyo (it can see Serviio (User PC, User PC: Will's Laptop and BubbleUPnP Media Server (GT-19300- this is my phone), I select Serviio (via Onkyo remote control) and the same tracks have frequent drop-outs.
 
If required I could insert screen shots if you need.
Regards
william

Here is something that could be worth checking out. It is a copy from this link http://serviio.org/component/content/article?id=21#q12
 
Since you experience problems when using Serviio...it should be from Serviio´s website you should look for answers. yay101 is correct. LAN network (and atleast CAT6 network cable if you ask me) is highly recommended when using DLNA/UPnP. Other things to check out is buffer settings/latency settings on your audio driver (ASIO?).
 

What to do when playback stutters

The quality of media streaming may depend on a few main variables

1. the quality of your home network - wired network is always preferable, especially for streaming HD videos. If you are on a wireless network, make sure the signal is strong, the device is located within a reasonable distance of the router, and that the WiFi channel you are using is being used by as few of your neighbours as possible. It is also always a good idea to invest in a quality router, designed for high bitrate operation.
2. the power of the computer running Serviio - this only relates to transcoded videos, which might require considerable resources from your PC to be able to play smoothly, especially CPU. If your computer has multi-core CPU, you can assign additional CPU cores to the transcoder in the console.
3. the way the file has been encoded - some high quality video files might be 'too much' for your device with its limited processing power and memory and you might experience stuttering in fast moving scenes

Checking their forum could also be a good idea. Saw something about enable DNLA in the D-Link router (off by default) with similar issues...but playing videos. Could be a clue as well!

 Here is a direct link: http://forum.serviio.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10289
 
Good luck!
 
/Micael

 

[yay101]

Hmm what if you select servio as library then choose your onkyo renderer?

It may be worth ticking upnp on and playing with QOS settings in your router, but upnp in the router is more of a discovery tool rather than useful in actual playback.

If you play tracks from your phone to your receiver do they play properly say from Spotify or gmusic or tidal?

 

[Cornan]

Hmm what if you select servio as library then choose your onkyo renderer?

It may be worth ticking upnp on and playing with QOS settings in your router, but upnp in the router is more of a discovery tool rather than useful in actual playback.

If you play tracks from your phone to your receiver do they play properly say from Spotify or gmusic or tidal?

If I would choose library in my JplayStreamer/ BubbleDS Next setup I would choose JplayStreamer and nothing else...so I think you are on to something there yay101. Would be my first option to try to find Serviio under Library and Onkyo as render. I have experianced similar UPnP/DNLA problems when upgrading to Windows 10. Running my TheSycon driver in Windows 7 compabillity mode made my day!

 

[wtaylorbasil]

Thank you for your efforts. I know the fault now. Onkyo took a long time to reply and they have accepted liability to refund or repair the 2009-2012 affected receivers.
This may help others: http://www.eu.onkyo.com/en/customer-...am-118747.html 
William