[eversound]

Thank you for the heads up

 

[teknorob23]

First off happy new year to everyone.

My first project for 2020 is to try to build one of these MCRU mains blocks:
https://www.mcru.co.uk/product/mcru-no-1-mains-power-extension-hub/

I know its not strictly a cable so if the consensus is you'd like me to take this elsewhere, then of course i will, but i tried one of these blocks and it made a huge amount of difference to the performance of my system but i'm sure or hope i could make something with similar performance for a lot less.

I just wanted to sense check the project see what people think.

I plan to use:

Brennenstuhl Premium-Alu-Line, 6-way which is what MCRU use
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HW0AQAK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have already dismantled it (see pics) below, i then intend fo get the internal contact plates silver or rhodium plated. to which ends i've made some initial enquiries with companies who specialise in jewellery.

I will then use a lengh of Neotech UPOCC (https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wire/neotech-mains-cable-nep-3001-mk3.html) bulk power cable which i'll also fillet section of, to make the hook ups between plates (see pics).

I will bypass the switch and solder the cables directly to the plates instead of using spade connectors

I'm not going to be spending £150+ on a fuse straight off the bat, so i'll probably start with a gold AMR one, with MS Power Silver plated UK plug.

As i say i just wanted to sense check my plan, not so much as to whether it will or wont benefit sound quality, but more from a technical point of view. I have made quite a few power cables and have been very happy with the results, but i appreciate this is a bit more involved, so i am going to make a prototype using less expensive bits first. Thanks in advance for any suggestions

 

[SilverEars]

Anybody know where you can get UP-OCC Pure Silver Neotech Wires on this listing? It states UP-OCC Silver 7N LT-6

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Arctic-Cab...13:m:m1f07zrTRiOma4PqIX_1JXA&var=442154653483

 

[imas69]

It's unlikely that is Neotech wire but where are you and perhaps I can point you in the right direction, do you want Neotech wire or just pure silver wire
that looks like that

 

[SilverEars]

It's unlikely that is Neotech wire but where are you and perhaps I can point you in the right direction, do you want Neotech wire or just pure silver wire
that looks like that

The listing states it's Neotech. You mean that's a false listing, and not really Neotech wireles? I'm looking for identical wiring, which is Neotech branded. It's very flexibly made so likely litz.

I'm in the USA

 

[imas69]

Neotech don't actually make that sort of wire, there is listings on AliExpress but I've enquired to Neotech in Taiwan and they say it's nothing to do with them, ask Trevor at Norne audio in the US, I don't
think he has it listed on site but may sell you some that looks like that.

 

[SilverEars]

Neotech don't actually make that sort of wire, there is listings on AliExpress but I've enquired to Neotech in Taiwan and they say it's nothing to do with them, ask Trevor at Norne audio in the US, I don't
think he has it listed on site but may sell you some that looks like that.

Which listing on AliExpress have you found such a wire? I wonder why the listing was advertised as Neotech then? Were you interested in the same wire as well?

 

[imas69]

https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/neotech-pure-silver

This is what Neotech pure silver looks like

 

[imas69]

I'm always interested in wire, I have a minor obsession, perhaps you should contact Neotech and ask but I'm pretty sure they don't sell it, the Neotech on AE is definitely not
pure silver

 

[524419]

First off happy new year to everyone.

My first project for 2020 is to try to build one of these MCRU mains blocks:
https://www.mcru.co.uk/product/mcru-no-1-mains-power-extension-hub/

I know its not strictly a cable so if the consensus is you'd like me to take this elsewhere, then of course i will, but i tried one of these blocks and it made a huge amount of difference to the performance of my system but i'm sure or hope i could make something with similar performance for a lot less.

I just wanted to sense check the project see what people think.

I plan to use:

Brennenstuhl Premium-Alu-Line, 6-way which is what MCRU use
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HW0AQAK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have already dismantled it (see pics) below, i then intend fo get the internal contact plates silver or rhodium plated. to which ends i've made some initial enquiries with companies who specialise in jewellery.

I will then use a lengh of Neotech UPOCC (https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wire/neotech-mains-cable-nep-3001-mk3.html) bulk power cable which i'll also fillet section of, to make the hook ups between plates (see pics).

I will bypass the switch and solder the cables directly to the plates instead of using spade connectors

I'm not going to be spending £150+ on a fuse straight off the bat, so i'll probably start with a gold AMR one, with MS Power Silver plated UK plug.

As i say i just wanted to sense check my plan, not so much as to whether it will or wont benefit sound quality, but more from a technical point of view. I have made quite a few power cables and have been very happy with the results, but i appreciate this is a bit more involved, so i am going to make a prototype using less expensive bits first. Thanks in advance for any suggestions

I made my power cables with cheap home depot Thermostat cable. 20 gauge solid copper, 6 wires per conductor, terminated into a pure copper plug. plugged directly into a GTX Furutech wall socket.
These cables sound absolutely fantastic. I had to make 10 foot long amp cables, for shorter cables, 20 gauge neotech Solid OCC Copper would be perfect.
ADD: Power strips degrade sound, you should try going directly into the wall socket. Solid Copper sounds better than stranded copper.

 

[SilverEars]

https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/neotech-pure-silver

This is what Neotech pure silver looks like

From that company's roll, but that doesn't mean there's not other rolls out there with different colored(or no color) sheath around the conductor.

Here's one, and I take it that it's a custom order from this company? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33046978735.html?spm=a2g0o.store_home.productList_48890756.pic_10

Or is this company's rolls not legit Neotech wires?

Here's another that is speaker hook-up wires uses clear teflon sheath. https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wires/neotech-LEST-rectangular-silver-wire.html

 

[chrisdrop]

interested to hear what wire you used for the usb build. I’ve been experimenting a bit with Beldeb quad shielded and the results are good, about on par with supra usb but no where near the ridiculously expensive tellurium q black diamond cable. This the last shop bought cable in my set up as I’ve managed to build rca, hp, digital coax and Ethernet cables which outperform my expensive branded ones. it’s just the usb which is alluding me, so any secrets you can share would be gratefully received. I’ve been drinking the cable cool aid for years so your pushing against an open door here

had anyone ever seen a tear down on a top usb cable, I can’t bring myself to cut into this £600 sausage, but TQ give absolutely zero away about their construction. The one thing I can say is the difference it makes is worth the price to me it’s that good

Perhaps you might find some inspiration here: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/monsterzeros-rca-usb-power-cable-shootout.921568/

Several USB cable vendors sent cables for consideration. Perhaps some of them have more info on construction available.

I thought from an RCA perspective (and even power) the cable construction was interesting: https://www.lessloss.com/cmarc-rca-interconnect-cable-p-221.html

One of the cables he liked on the interconnects used the KLE Innovations connectors. I wish KLE had a wider opening to shove some of the (happily) fat Neotech interconnect cable in there without too much hacking.

 

[Sunstealer]

Greetings everyone.

I have been lurking on this thread for a while and yes, I have read at least 50% of the preceding pages! I have zero experience with soldering and cabling but love cable rolling. I have watched a fair few videos on Youtube and have assembled a list of basic gear with some practice PCB boards to get started. My eventual goal is to make balanced 8 wire cables for the various 2 pin IEMs that I have.

There is a lot to take in and whilst I do not know much about electronics this seems to be a good space in which to learn and satisfy my curiosity. Thanks for all of the contributions so far that have catalysed this journey.

 

[imas69]

Welcome, Sunstealer, wow 50% of this thread is a lot of reading and a lot of conflicting views no doubt

 

[gurus]

Holy Smokes is that pricey with shipping to USA.

$75 USD for MMCX w shipping from England

$42 USD for MMCX

$33 USD shipping

I can get 3 pairs of Eidolic MMCX for that price, which is pretty unfortunate for me as those rhodium plated Ber Cu MMCX piqued my interest.

Anyone know a place in N America that sells those MMCX or can ship to USA for much less?

EBAY https://www.ebay.com/itm/Earphone-P...hash=item3d96e38aee:m:mU799bJsun75ESv1IevBDqA