DIY Cable Questions and Comments Thread
post-15398206
Post #9,512 of 9,560

teknorob23

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Feb 28, 2018
Messages
1,142
Reaction score
1,152
Location
UK
Joined
Feb 28, 2018
Location
UK
Posts
1,142
Likes
1,152
Website
www.springloadedfilms.com
First off happy new year to everyone.

My first project for 2020 is to try to build one of these MCRU mains blocks:
https://www.mcru.co.uk/product/mcru-no-1-mains-power-extension-hub/

I know its not strictly a cable so if the consensus is you'd like me to take this elsewhere, then of course i will, but i tried one of these blocks and it made a huge amount of difference to the performance of my system but i'm sure or hope i could make something with similar performance for a lot less.

I just wanted to sense check the project see what people think.

I plan to use:

Brennenstuhl Premium-Alu-Line, 6-way which is what MCRU use
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HW0AQAK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have already dismantled it (see pics) below, i then intend fo get the internal contact plates silver or rhodium plated. to which ends i've made some initial enquiries with companies who specialise in jewellery.

I will then use a lengh of Neotech UPOCC (https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wire/neotech-mains-cable-nep-3001-mk3.html) bulk power cable which i'll also fillet section of, to make the hook ups between plates (see pics).

I will bypass the switch and solder the cables directly to the plates instead of using spade connectors

I'm not going to be spending £150+ on a fuse straight off the bat, so i'll probably start with a gold AMR one, with MS Power Silver plated UK plug.

As i say i just wanted to sense check my plan, not so much as to whether it will or wont benefit sound quality, but more from a technical point of view. I have made quite a few power cables and have been very happy with the results, but i appreciate this is a bit more involved, so i am going to make a prototype using less expensive bits first. Thanks in advance for any suggestions :):)

Screenshot 2020-01-04 at 21.33.11.png
IMG_3566.jpg
IMG_3567.jpg
IMG_3568.jpg
 
     Share This Post       
post-15398219
Post #9,513 of 9,560

SilverEars

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Sep 18, 2013
Messages
8,890
Reaction score
3,082
Joined
Sep 18, 2013
Posts
8,890
Likes
3,082
     Share This Post       
post-15398226
Post #9,514 of 9,560

imas69

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Feb 26, 2017
Messages
177
Reaction score
59
Joined
Feb 26, 2017
Posts
177
Likes
59
It's unlikely that is Neotech wire but where are you and perhaps I can point you in the right direction, do you want Neotech wire or just pure silver wire
that looks like that
 
     Share This Post       
post-15398232
Post #9,515 of 9,560

SilverEars

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Sep 18, 2013
Messages
8,890
Reaction score
3,082
Joined
Sep 18, 2013
Posts
8,890
Likes
3,082
It's unlikely that is Neotech wire but where are you and perhaps I can point you in the right direction, do you want Neotech wire or just pure silver wire
that looks like that
The listing states it's Neotech. You mean that's a false listing, and not really Neotech wireles? I'm looking for identical wiring, which is Neotech branded. It's very flexibly made so likely litz.

I'm in the USA
 
     Share This Post       
post-15398239
Post #9,516 of 9,560

imas69

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Feb 26, 2017
Messages
177
Reaction score
59
Joined
Feb 26, 2017
Posts
177
Likes
59
Neotech don't actually make that sort of wire, there is listings on AliExpress but I've enquired to Neotech in Taiwan and they say it's nothing to do with them, ask Trevor at Norne audio in the US, I don't
think he has it listed on site but may sell you some that looks like that.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15398244
Post #9,517 of 9,560

SilverEars

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Sep 18, 2013
Messages
8,890
Reaction score
3,082
Joined
Sep 18, 2013
Posts
8,890
Likes
3,082
Neotech don't actually make that sort of wire, there is listings on AliExpress but I've enquired to Neotech in Taiwan and they say it's nothing to do with them, ask Trevor at Norne audio in the US, I don't
think he has it listed on site but may sell you some that looks like that.
Which listing on AliExpress have you found such a wire? I wonder why the listing was advertised as Neotech then? Were you interested in the same wire as well?
 
     Share This Post       
post-15398250
Post #9,519 of 9,560

imas69

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Feb 26, 2017
Messages
177
Reaction score
59
Joined
Feb 26, 2017
Posts
177
Likes
59
I'm always interested in wire, I have a minor obsession, perhaps you should contact Neotech and ask but I'm pretty sure they don't sell it, the Neotech on AE is definitely not
pure silver
 
     Share This Post       
post-15398256
Post #9,520 of 9,560

Diet Kokaine

Head-Fier
Joined
Dec 28, 2019
Messages
60
Reaction score
59
Location
hooo knooos
Joined
Dec 28, 2019
Location
hooo knooos
Posts
60
Likes
59
First off happy new year to everyone.

My first project for 2020 is to try to build one of these MCRU mains blocks:
https://www.mcru.co.uk/product/mcru-no-1-mains-power-extension-hub/

I know its not strictly a cable so if the consensus is you'd like me to take this elsewhere, then of course i will, but i tried one of these blocks and it made a huge amount of difference to the performance of my system but i'm sure or hope i could make something with similar performance for a lot less.

I just wanted to sense check the project see what people think.

I plan to use:

Brennenstuhl Premium-Alu-Line, 6-way which is what MCRU use
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HW0AQAK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have already dismantled it (see pics) below, i then intend fo get the internal contact plates silver or rhodium plated. to which ends i've made some initial enquiries with companies who specialise in jewellery.

I will then use a lengh of Neotech UPOCC (https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wire/neotech-mains-cable-nep-3001-mk3.html) bulk power cable which i'll also fillet section of, to make the hook ups between plates (see pics).

I will bypass the switch and solder the cables directly to the plates instead of using spade connectors

I'm not going to be spending £150+ on a fuse straight off the bat, so i'll probably start with a gold AMR one, with MS Power Silver plated UK plug.

As i say i just wanted to sense check my plan, not so much as to whether it will or wont benefit sound quality, but more from a technical point of view. I have made quite a few power cables and have been very happy with the results, but i appreciate this is a bit more involved, so i am going to make a prototype using less expensive bits first. Thanks in advance for any suggestions :):)

I made my power cables with cheap home depot Thermostat cable. 20 gauge solid copper, 6 wires per conductor, terminated into a pure copper plug. plugged directly into a GTX Furutech wall socket.
These cables sound absolutely fantastic. I had to make 10 foot long amp cables, for shorter cables, 20 gauge neotech Solid OCC Copper would be perfect.
ADD: Power strips degrade sound, you should try going directly into the wall socket. Solid Copper sounds better than stranded copper.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15398497
Post #9,521 of 9,560

SilverEars

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Sep 18, 2013
Messages
8,890
Reaction score
3,082
Joined
Sep 18, 2013
Posts
8,890
Likes
3,082
From that company's roll, but that doesn't mean there's not other rolls out there with different colored(or no color) sheath around the conductor.

Here's one, and I take it that it's a custom order from this company? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33046978735.html?spm=a2g0o.store_home.productList_48890756.pic_10

Or is this company's rolls not legit Neotech wires?

Here's another that is speaker hook-up wires uses clear teflon sheath. https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wires/neotech-LEST-rectangular-silver-wire.html
 
Last edited:
     Share This Post       
post-15398795
Post #9,522 of 9,560

chrisdrop

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jun 22, 2019
Messages
379
Reaction score
562
Location
London, United Kingdom
Joined
Jun 22, 2019
Location
London, United Kingdom
Posts
379
Likes
562
interested to hear what wire you used for the usb build. I’ve been experimenting a bit with Beldeb quad shielded and the results are good, about on par with supra usb but no where near the ridiculously expensive tellurium q black diamond cable. This the last shop bought cable in my set up as I’ve managed to build rca, hp, digital coax and Ethernet cables which outperform my expensive branded ones. it’s just the usb which is alluding me, so any secrets you can share would be gratefully received. I’ve been drinking the cable cool aid for years so your pushing against an open door here :wink:

had anyone ever seen a tear down on a top usb cable, I can’t bring myself to cut into this £600 sausage, but TQ give absolutely zero away about their construction. The one thing I can say is the difference it makes is worth the price to me it’s that good :)

Perhaps you might find some inspiration here: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/monsterzeros-rca-usb-power-cable-shootout.921568/

Several USB cable vendors sent cables for consideration. Perhaps some of them have more info on construction available.

I thought from an RCA perspective (and even power) the cable construction was interesting: https://www.lessloss.com/cmarc-rca-interconnect-cable-p-221.html

One of the cables he liked on the interconnects used the KLE Innovations connectors. I wish KLE had a wider opening to shove some of the (happily) fat Neotech interconnect cable in there without too much hacking.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15398802
Post #9,523 of 9,560

Sunstealer

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Sep 19, 2018
Messages
225
Reaction score
143
Location
UK
Joined
Sep 19, 2018
Location
UK
Posts
225
Likes
143
Greetings everyone.

I have been lurking on this thread for a while and yes, I have read at least 50% of the preceding pages! I have zero experience with soldering and cabling but love cable rolling. I have watched a fair few videos on Youtube and have assembled a list of basic gear with some practice PCB boards to get started. My eventual goal is to make balanced 8 wire cables for the various 2 pin IEMs that I have.

There is a lot to take in and whilst I do not know much about electronics this seems to be a good space in which to learn and satisfy my curiosity. Thanks for all of the contributions so far that have catalysed this journey.
 
     Share This Post       
  • Like
Reactions: teknorob23
post-15399268
Post #9,524 of 9,560

imas69

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Feb 26, 2017
Messages
177
Reaction score
59
Joined
Feb 26, 2017
Posts
177
Likes
59
Welcome, Sunstealer, wow 50% of this thread is a lot of reading and a lot of conflicting views no doubt
 
     Share This Post       
post-15399749
Post #9,525 of 9,560

gurus

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Dec 15, 2004
Messages
1,127
Reaction score
34
Joined
Dec 15, 2004
Posts
1,127
Likes
34
Holy Smokes is that pricey with shipping to USA.

$75 USD for MMCX w shipping from England

$42 USD for MMCX

$33 USD shipping

I can get 3 pairs of Eidolic MMCX for that price, which is pretty unfortunate for me as those rhodium plated Ber Cu MMCX piqued my interest.

Anyone know a place in N America that sells those MMCX or can ship to USA for much less?
EBAY https://www.ebay.com/itm/Earphone-Pin-MMCX-Plug-Beryllium-Copper-Rhodium-Plating-Connector-For-SE846-Hifi/264524499694?hash=item3d96e38aee:m:mU799bJsun75ESv1IevBDqA
 
     Share This Post       

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 5)

Top