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Didn't like roon, foobar2000 is good, what's better?

Discussion in 'Computer Audio' started by gimmeheadroom, Jul 30, 2018.
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  1. gimmeheadroom
    I tried roon, it was not at all what I hoped. I am happy with foobar2000, it plays pretty much everything. What I am missing by not going with jriver or something else?

    At this point I'd like more management tools to fix tags and arrange a large quantity of files. I haven't found any tagging program recently that I am ok with. I have been mostly pretty good about using a standard filename format and album folder structure. My tags are in bad shape. I'd like to tag from filename and it seems like there was something decent for Windows I used in the past but now I can't find it.

    My music now lives on a UNIX server (not even Linux) and I can build open source apps no problem, but that does limit the choices of tagging software even more.
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2018
  2. d34dj3d1
    Foobar is better if you can get past the high learning curve that goes with using it.
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  3. Roseval
    Have a look at MP3Tag, a very powerful tagger
    bfreedma likes this.
  4. gimmeheadroom
    I found foobar pretty straightforward. Any problems I remember had to do with Windows driver hell and manufacturer's lies rather than foobar :wink: I think it's pretty amazing.

    I'm listening to an SACD rip of Bill Evan's Waltz for Debby over my Oppo right now. Incredible!

    This app is dangerous. I really do not like the way it decides to update everything in sight.

    I would like a command line tool or a very simple GUI app that does exactly what I tell it and not more than that.

    Thanks guys.
  5. bfreedma

    How MP3Tag performs tagging is configurable. Is there something specific it does by default that you want to avoid?

    MP3Tag can be called via command line. If you want a fully command line driven tool and Linux/Unix is an option, id3v2 and Easytag are out there, though I haven't used either lately recently.
  6. gimmeheadroom
    You know what? Maybe I misspoke and it is easytag that I didn't like rather than mp3tag. I will look again. But, I don't want it to do anything by default. So if it does, I already don't like it :wink:

    All the music lives on UNIX and I hope it will stay that way. I have spent a lot of time and effort moving stuff back and forth between Windows, Android, and Linux and this should be the last stop.

    I have a bunch of flac and some other weird stuff.. although I am converting most of that to either flac or mp3 depending what it is. I am not sure if many of the apps can tag flac as well as mp3.

    I'll have to set up a safe environment and try a few. Been too busy lately... thank you.
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2018
  7. dwinnert
    I use JRiver and Audirvana. I like the simplicity of Audirvana, and all the cool options available in JRiver and the ability to use VST plugins. For tagging I use Musicbrainz Picard, by far the best tagger I have found.
  8. EELawson
    JRiver. It is great. Comes with a free 30 day trial. Easy to use, sounds good, tagging is easy.
  9. gimmeheadroom
    Thanks for the suggestion of picard. Looks like dramatic overkill for what I want but I'll test it at some point.

    foobar is perfectly simple.. how are audiarvana and jriver better?

    Not much facts to go on here guys
  10. Whitigir
    I use Jriver, and it is pretty simple for pcm and so on, but for DSD and live conversion, it is a pita. Then it turned out Foobar is much better options for DSD Native or on the fly
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  11. dwinnert
    Picard is pretty simple to use and helped me clean up years of messed up tags.

    As what player is better....Well, I don't subscribe to the camp that says they hear a dramatic difference between audio players. In bitperfect, there should be minimal if any sound difference. If there is, it might have to do with some slight differences in how the program was coded. But, I cannot hear a difference between any of the major players. I used Foobar2000 for years, but would have issues here and there. Some things would get wonky and I was always messing with it and making more issues. Plus I wanted something by a company I could contact with specific issues, so I had no problem paying.

    As strictly a music player, I would like Audirvana the best if they supported VST plugins. They do on the Mac, and said they will in a upcoming release. Once they do, I could see using JRiver less and less.

    Give them all a try. JRiver has 30 days, Audirvana has 15 day trials.
    gimmeheadroom likes this.
  12. gimmeheadroom
    Thanks guys. I agree there shouldn't be sound differences. I guess I will try to clean up my tags and stay with foobar since I have a lot of SACD rips and foobar plays everything I have fine.
  13. Whitigir
    Different algorithm, different outcome, period. There are always sound differences. Stick with what your ears being satisfied the most
  14. gimmeheadroom
    In reality there are probably very few examples of anything in the PC world at the app level that is not the same anywhere. People are usually using open source CODECs and other middleware. I guess differences between proprietary drivers or win/lin/macos are much greater than any audio decoding differences.
  15. Whitigir
    Isn’t all of them using Asio4All now ?
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