Didn't like roon, foobar2000 is good, what's better?
Jul 30, 2018 at 10:38 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 79

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I tried roon, it was not at all what I hoped. I am happy with foobar2000, it plays pretty much everything. What I am missing by not going with jriver or something else?

At this point I'd like more management tools to fix tags and arrange a large quantity of files. I haven't found any tagging program recently that I am ok with. I have been mostly pretty good about using a standard filename format and album folder structure. My tags are in bad shape. I'd like to tag from filename and it seems like there was something decent for Windows I used in the past but now I can't find it.

My music now lives on a UNIX server (not even Linux) and I can build open source apps no problem, but that does limit the choices of tagging software even more.
 
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Jul 30, 2018 at 12:28 PM Post #4 of 79
Foobar is better if you can get past the high learning curve that goes with using it.

I found foobar pretty straightforward. Any problems I remember had to do with Windows driver hell and manufacturer's lies rather than foobar :wink: I think it's pretty amazing.

I'm listening to an SACD rip of Bill Evan's Waltz for Debby over my Oppo right now. Incredible!

Have a look at MP3Tag, a very powerful tagger

This app is dangerous. I really do not like the way it decides to update everything in sight.

I would like a command line tool or a very simple GUI app that does exactly what I tell it and not more than that.

Thanks guys.
 
Jul 30, 2018 at 12:37 PM Post #5 of 79
I found foobar pretty straightforward. Any problems I remember had to do with Windows driver hell and manufacturer's lies rather than foobar :wink: I think it's pretty amazing.

I'm listening to an SACD rip of Bill Evan's Waltz for Debby over my Oppo right now. Incredible!



This app is dangerous. I really do not like the way it decides to update everything in sight.

I would like a command line tool or a very simple GUI app that does exactly what I tell it and not more than that.

Thanks guys.


How MP3Tag performs tagging is configurable. Is there something specific it does by default that you want to avoid?

MP3Tag can be called via command line. If you want a fully command line driven tool and Linux/Unix is an option, id3v2 and Easytag are out there, though I haven't used either lately recently.
 
Jul 30, 2018 at 12:50 PM Post #6 of 79
How MP3Tag performs tagging is configurable. Is there something specific it does by default that you want to avoid?

MP3Tag can be called via command line. If you want a fully command line driven tool and Linux/Unix is an option, id3v2 and Easytag are out there, though I haven't used either lately recently.

You know what? Maybe I misspoke and it is easytag that I didn't like rather than mp3tag. I will look again. But, I don't want it to do anything by default. So if it does, I already don't like it :wink:

All the music lives on UNIX and I hope it will stay that way. I have spent a lot of time and effort moving stuff back and forth between Windows, Android, and Linux and this should be the last stop.

I have a bunch of flac and some other weird stuff.. although I am converting most of that to either flac or mp3 depending what it is. I am not sure if many of the apps can tag flac as well as mp3.

I'll have to set up a safe environment and try a few. Been too busy lately... thank you.
 
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Jul 30, 2018 at 9:10 PM Post #7 of 79
I use JRiver and Audirvana. I like the simplicity of Audirvana, and all the cool options available in JRiver and the ability to use VST plugins. For tagging I use Musicbrainz Picard, by far the best tagger I have found.
 
Jul 31, 2018 at 1:39 PM Post #9 of 79
I use JRiver and Audirvana. I like the simplicity of Audirvana, and all the cool options available in JRiver and the ability to use VST plugins. For tagging I use Musicbrainz Picard, by far the best tagger I have found.

Thanks for the suggestion of picard. Looks like dramatic overkill for what I want but I'll test it at some point.

foobar is perfectly simple.. how are audiarvana and jriver better?

JRiver. It is great. Comes with a free 30 day trial. Easy to use, sounds good, tagging is easy.

Not much facts to go on here guys
 
Jul 31, 2018 at 2:27 PM Post #11 of 79
Thanks for the suggestion of picard. Looks like dramatic overkill for what I want but I'll test it at some point.

foobar is perfectly simple.. how are audiarvana and jriver better?

Picard is pretty simple to use and helped me clean up years of messed up tags.

As what player is better....Well, I don't subscribe to the camp that says they hear a dramatic difference between audio players. In bitperfect, there should be minimal if any sound difference. If there is, it might have to do with some slight differences in how the program was coded. But, I cannot hear a difference between any of the major players. I used Foobar2000 for years, but would have issues here and there. Some things would get wonky and I was always messing with it and making more issues. Plus I wanted something by a company I could contact with specific issues, so I had no problem paying.

As strictly a music player, I would like Audirvana the best if they supported VST plugins. They do on the Mac, and said they will in a upcoming release. Once they do, I could see using JRiver less and less.

Give them all a try. JRiver has 30 days, Audirvana has 15 day trials.
 
Jul 31, 2018 at 3:58 PM Post #12 of 79
Thanks guys. I agree there shouldn't be sound differences. I guess I will try to clean up my tags and stay with foobar since I have a lot of SACD rips and foobar plays everything I have fine.
 
Aug 1, 2018 at 4:47 PM Post #13 of 79
Thanks guys. I agree there shouldn't be sound differences. I guess I will try to clean up my tags and stay with foobar since I have a lot of SACD rips and foobar plays everything I have fine.

Different algorithm, different outcome, period. There are always sound differences. Stick with what your ears being satisfied the most
 
Aug 2, 2018 at 12:34 PM Post #14 of 79
Different algorithm, different outcome, period. There are always sound differences. Stick with what your ears being satisfied the most

In reality there are probably very few examples of anything in the PC world at the app level that is not the same anywhere. People are usually using open source CODECs and other middleware. I guess differences between proprietary drivers or win/lin/macos are much greater than any audio decoding differences.
 
Aug 2, 2018 at 12:43 PM Post #15 of 79
In reality there are probably very few examples of anything in the PC world at the app level that is not the same anywhere. People are usually using open source CODECs and other middleware. I guess differences between proprietary drivers or win/lin/macos are much greater than any audio decoding differences.
Isn’t all of them using Asio4All now ?
 

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