[xRaptorxPunisher]

Here are the results from Abyss posted two days ago and linked to endless times:

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/dia...byss-headphones.777618/page-217#post-16101725

These are not from Abyss engineers.
Before you say a rando Youtuber works for them, no.

also those graphs look like crap.

 

[driftingbunnies]

Rando youtuber....




Isn't it a little strange to judge a graph by it's looks? Shouldn't you be determining if the data is correct or not rather than judge the layout? Should that really have any basis of whether or not the graph provides relevant information?

 

[xRaptorxPunisher]

Rando youtuber....




Isn't it a little strange to judge a graph by it's looks? Shouldn't you be determining if the data is correct or not rather than judge the layout? Should that really have any basis of whether or not the graph provides relevant information?

DMS is a rando Youtuber not an Abyss engineer who has worked on the headphone. That doesn’t change the fact that the measurements look awful. It’s funny how Amirs graph was crap on but this makes the headphone look equally as terrible

Funny you mention correct...what makes this more relevant than Amirs except Amir gave his opinion that the headphone basically sucked and got everyone’s knickers in a twist.

 

[driftingbunnies]

Just because he was not an engineer who worked on the headphone does not make him random. I would say he's much closer to the product than any one of us in the forums.

The graph is to show that you can change the seal to make the measurements look different. Thankfully most people listen to headphones rather than leave them on their desk and watch graphs. Also, a frequency graph does not provide any data on detail retrieval, soundstage, harshness, etc, etc. I'm not really sure what your goal is but it doesn't seem like you care to know much about this headphone.

 

[bithloman]

DMS is a rando Youtuber not an Abyss engineer who has worked on the headphone. That doesn’t change the fact that the measurements look awful. It’s funny how Amirs graph was crap on but this makes the headphone look equally as terrible

Funny you mention correct...what makes this more relevant than Amirs except Amir gave his opinion that the headphone basically sucked and got everyone’s knickers in a twist.

DMS is a company spokesperson and marketing person. How is he random? he posted that measurement to show that when he purposely tried to unseal the headphone that the measurement is exactly like amir . meaning amir left a huge hole and then procedded to proclaim to his rabid audience that its trash because he doesnt even know how to measure correctly with a good seal.

 

[xRaptorxPunisher]

Just because he was not an engineer who worked on the headphone does not make him random. I would say he's much closer to the product than any one of us in the forums.

The graph is to show that you can change the seal to make the measurements look different. Thankfully most people listen to headphones rather than leave them on their desk and watch graphs. Also, a frequency graph does not provide any data on detail retrieval, soundstage, harshness, etc, etc. I'm not really sure what your goal is but it doesn't seem like you care to know much about this headphone.

Not really. While I don’t care for Amir he’s way more experienced than DMS which makes his graph as credible than the others posted. DMS handles the social media, basically a paid shill for extra marketing, nothing wrong with that, fair play to the kid but from a credibility point of view, no.

 

[AxelCloris]

Some of the comments have started getting too personal, argumentative, and off-topic in the thread. We ask that you please keep the discussion on-topic and avoid any personal comments or name calling. Thank you to everyone who tried to keep the thread on-track. If we could please pull the discussion back to the Diana headphone, we'd appreciate it.

 

[bluestorm1992]

Not really. While I don’t care for Amir he’s way more experienced than DMS which makes his graph as credible than the others posted. DMS handles the social media, basically a paid shill for extra marketing, nothing wrong with that, fair play to the kid but from a credibility point of view, no.

If the claims from some earlier posts are valid that Amir in fact works for some brand, we are basically selecting the measurement between two sales person lol.

Anyway, I am still loving my V2. I think being able to enjoy music with V2 is the most important thing for us the users.

 

[A Jedi]

That doesn’t change the fact that the measurements look awful.

Ok, I'll bite. Please explain which part is "awful" and why.

 

[xRaptorxPunisher]

If the claims from some earlier posts are valid that Amir in fact works for some brand, we are basically selecting the measurement between two sales person lol.

Anyway, I am still loving my V2. I think being able to enjoy music with V2 is the most important thing for us the users.

Possibly lol. I’m not really a fan of Amir in general I think his whole, I’m always right attitude sucks even when he’s proven wrong many times but I do agree with his listening impressions on these. They’re just rough sounding headphones and the FR isn’t smooth, at all(measurements reflect this also) which is why I dislike them but the first headphone they made, the Frankenstein ones sounded fantastic; I would happily own them despite them being a bit rough on places.

That said what people enjoy is what people enjoy so it’s all good, that’s what is most important. Out of the whole situation I’m more disappointed in the way Abyss handled the situation it’s extremely childish and insecure. I remember the guy who worked on the Klipsh Heritage headphones was a bit of a dope on forums too and made himself look a similar fashion, pretty sure he secretly got fired and said he left from memory, that was the general consensus.

 

[bithloman]

Possibly lol. I’m not really a fan of Amir in general I think his whole, I’m always right attitude sucks even when he’s proven wrong many times but I do agree with his listening impressions on these. They’re just rough sounding headphones and the FR isn’t smooth, at all(measurements reflect this also) which is why I dislike them but the first headphone they made, the Frankenstein ones sounded fantastic; I would happily own them despite them being a bit rough on places.

That said what people enjoy is what people enjoy so it’s all good, that’s what is most important. Out of the whole situation I’m more disappointed in the way Abyss handled the situation it’s extremely childish and insecure. I remember the guy who worked on the Klipsh Heritage headphones was a bit of a dope on forums too and made himself look a similar fashion, pretty sure he secretly got fired and said he left from memory, that was the general consensus.

so you arent a fan of him and what he does but you trust his listening tests but then you say you base that off of freq response graphs? i mean you couldnt be more confusing. freq response is just amplitude at different freq. it tells you nothing about actual sound almost at all. decay and resonance and chamber resonance and harmonics i mean its almost meaningless. if you dont enjoy something fine. but saying he is a trusted source because of his listening tests is just obsurd in my opinion. he barely listens at all. almost every review he says "i didnt have much time so i played 2 songs and they are trash" i mean thats what you trust?

 

[driftingbunnies]

How many headphones do you have to listen to at 94 db before your hearing goes?

 

[xRaptorxPunisher]

so you arent a fan of him and what he does but you trust his listening tests but then you say you base that off of freq response graphs? i mean you couldnt be more confusing. freq response is just amplitude at different freq. it tells you nothing about actual sound almost at all. decay and resonance and chamber resonance and harmonics i mean its almost meaningless. if you dont enjoy something fine. but saying he is a trusted source because of his listening tests is just obsurd in my opinion. he barely listens at all. almost every review he says "i didnt have much time so i played 2 songs and they are trash" i mean thats what you trust?

What on earth are you on about? Just because I’m not a fan of someone doesn’t mean I can’t agree on their findings after listening to them you sure you’re okay?

 

[TheThingGoesSkrrr]

Still love my Diana v2. My experience with the headphone (daily driver for a couple of months now) is very different than the impression Amir wrote but thats okay. Nothing he/she said will affect my enjoyment with the v2.

 

[DuncanDirkDick]

Why bother reading reviews then?