Ah well, I didn’t mean for it to descend into an argument. I think it’s extremely difficult for any of us to really be objective about sound, and maybe we disagree on that front. But it seems we agree that if you want to know which is best for you @Cat Music you’ll just have to hear it for yourself. For what it’s worth, I found similar to the impressions of @teknorob23, the timbre and weight of the notes wasn’t what I was after (or expected based on reviews) and it veered towards too brassy at times. The DTR1 certainly has an abundance of detail and great soundstage, but I had the same experience as I’d had previously with the DX200 - there was an abundance of details but it felt like it was all thrown at you and somewhat uncontrolled, without the right sense of coherency of pulling all those instruments and notes together into a whole. So I found it quite fatiguing, and since I’d felt the same with DX200, after owning it for a few months, I pretty quickly realized the DTR1 didn’t tick the right boxes for me.