Jan 22, 2002 at 1:31 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 11

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hey...i'm bored, so i'm starting this thread.

a few days ago, i was taking the buttons off my SR80's and all of a sudden i got this eery sense of deja vu
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, like it was something i'd dreamt about.

it's not the first time i've experienced this 'phenomenon,' if you will, and i was just wondering if any of you people out there have had really bizarre cases of deja vu.

hopefully we can have fun with this topic...
 
Jan 22, 2002 at 1:57 AM Post #2 of 11
Déjà vu is an uncanny feeling or illusion of having already seen or experienced something that is being experienced for the first time. If we assume that the experience is actually of a remembered event, then déjà vu probably occurs because an original experience was not fully attended to and elaborately encoded. If so, then it would seem most likely that the present situation triggers the recollection of a fragment from one's past. The experience may seem uncanny if the memory is so fragmented that no strong connections can be made between the fragment and other memories.

Thus, the feeling that one has been there before is often due to the fact that one has been there before. One has simply forgotten most of the original experience because one was not paying close attention the first time. The original experience may even have occurred only seconds or minutes earlier.

On the other hand, the déjà vu experience may be due to having seen pictures or heard vivid stories many years earlier, as in the case of Virginia Tighe aka Bridey Murphy. Those experiences may be part of the dim recollections of childhood, mistakenly believed to have occurred in past lifetimes because one "just knows" they did not occur in this lifetime.

However, it is possible that the déjà vu feeling is triggered by a neurochemical action in the brain that is not connected to any actual experience in the past. One feels strange and identifies the feeling with a memory, even though the experience is completely new. That is, déjà vu (French for already seen) may not involve the faulty recognition of something one has seen before.

The term was first applied by Emile Boirac (1851-1917) who had strong interests in psychic phenomena. Boirac's term directs our attention to the past. However, a little reflection reveals that what is unique about déjà vu is not something from the past but something in the present, namely, the strange feeling one has in experiencing déjà vu. We often have experiences whose novelty is unclear and have been led to ask such questions as, Have I read this book before? Is this an episode of Inspector Morse I've seen before? This place looks familiar; have I been here before? Yet, these experiences are not accompanied by an uncanny feeling. We may feel a bit confused, but the feeling associated with the déjà vu experience is not one of confusion but of strangeness. There is nothing strange about not remembering whether you've read a book before, especially if you are fifty years old and have read thousands of books over your lifetime. In the déjà vu experience, however, we feel strange because we don't think we should feel familiar with the present perception. That sense of inappropriateness is not present when one is simply unclear whether one has read a book or seen a film before.

Thus, it is possible that the attempt to explain the déjà vu experience in terms of lost memory, past lives, clairvoyance, etc., may be completely misguided. We should be talking about the déjà vu feeling. That feeling may be caused by a brain state, by neurochemical factors during perception, that have nothing to do with memory. It is worth noting that the déjà vu feeling is common among psychiatric patients. The déjà vu feeling also frequently precedes temporal lobe epilepsy attacks. And, when Wilder Penfield did his famous experiment in 1955 in which he electrically stimulated the temporal lobes, he found about 8% of his subjects experienced "memories." He did not provide support for the claim that what was elicited were actually memories. They could well have been hallucinations and the first examples of artificially stimulated déjà vu.

http://skepdic.com/dejavu.html
 
Jan 22, 2002 at 3:01 AM Post #5 of 11
I've had very strong deja vu while overhearing some conversations at work a couple of times, now. Specific sentences, down to the exact wording. Then another topic will come up and the feeling passes.
 
Jan 22, 2002 at 4:11 AM Post #7 of 11
I've had one where I could even cue people to enter the room. That freaked me out.

Has anyone else had to instant flashbacks where all of a sudden you can recall an even in perfect detail, down to what people were wearing, and then the memory passes and you can't remember anything for the life of you?

Neither have I.
 
Jan 22, 2002 at 6:37 AM Post #8 of 11
I used to have dreams that I ended up actually experiencing, sometimes many years after I initially dreamed. This happened quite often when I was in high school and college. It rarely happens now.
 
Jan 22, 2002 at 8:08 AM Post #9 of 11
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Wow! More than I ever wanted to know about tasting that General Tso's chicken again!


Another tragedy that could have been prevented by timely use of Maalox...
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Jan 22, 2002 at 8:39 AM Post #10 of 11
One time I actually predicted time. I got that sence of deja vú,and suddently I new EXACTLY what would happen in the next second. I knew precisely what it would feel like to my senses. It was like I suddenly got boasted with information because I knew it to the most microscopic detail.

It was a very extreme feeling. Like deja vú times 10.
 
Jan 22, 2002 at 8:42 AM Post #11 of 11
KR:

Thanks for the lead to that website. Looks interesting. I wonder if the "Skeptic's Dictionary" has any entries for oxygen-free wire or NOS tubes.
 

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