decision: impossible
Dec 23, 2002 at 1:47 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 17

nanahachi

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this decision, should you choose to accept it...

am i the only one who feels incapable of making decisions when high-budget or high stress decisions arrise? even fun stuff, like certain high end headphones, can drive me nuts, to the point where i am paralyzed with indecision.

the pro-con analysis gets drawn out so long for me that its as if i were HAL trying to compute Pi.

am i alone? more importantly, is there a CURE?!

/whining
 
Dec 23, 2002 at 2:09 AM Post #2 of 17
When I find myself paralyzed to make a buying decision, it usually means that I really can't afford it.
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The "cure" is to get a job that pays enough to buy all the toys you want, or at least not have them cut into paying your rent/mortgage.
 
Dec 23, 2002 at 2:25 AM Post #3 of 17
During the last 3 months, i've had a choice of all of Japans 30,000 yen and less MD portable equipment. Usually the thing I *need* is about 34,000, just out of the 10% points card stuff range... *sigh*..

*buys MD-DR7 from sharp*
*regrets buying MD-DR7 from sharp*
....
1 year later....
...
buys new expensive toy
regrets buying new expensive toy

At least I don't have anything to pay like bills.. But I have a feeling when I do have to, it's going to be extremely tough. I guess I should buy about 20 MD players now, 10 sets of AT, and 5 MDR-R10s, 5 headphone amps and a few cables while i don't have to pay bills/rent.

This sucks!

BTW, theres no cure
 
Dec 23, 2002 at 2:26 AM Post #4 of 17
I share your affliction nanahachi. I almost always research my major purchases to death, like you say, weighing the pros and cons of each item. Whether I'm shopping for a CD player, a computer, or a car, I usually find it easy to quickly zero in on two or three top contenders, but deciding on the one specific brand/model which offers the best combination of price, affordability, value, quality, features, options, aethetics, warranty, etc. can keep me awake at night.

It must be a chronic fear of post purchase dissatisfaction which causes the problem.
 
Dec 23, 2002 at 3:04 AM Post #6 of 17
im truly sorry you guys are the same way

but I'm NOT alone!!!! phew!

we can make our own support group:
Head-fiers Unable to Make Purchase Decisions....

wait HUMPD doesnt sound right for some reason.

oh well, i guess my indecisiveness just spared me from the agony of owning some HP-2s and a SHA. funny how i can make impulsive decisions i regret, but am too slow making decisions i know i wouldnt regret.
 
Dec 23, 2002 at 3:14 AM Post #7 of 17
don't be afraid of buyer's remorse. everyone gets it now and then, and as a very wise man once said, "possesions are fleeting". although, researching the hell out of something is always a part of my expensive toy purchase process. and i usually feel some buyer's remourse about an hour after getting it, but that's just residue from too many disappointing christmases as a child.

hey nanahachi, aren't those eggos in your avatar?
 
Dec 23, 2002 at 3:25 AM Post #8 of 17
yeah redshifter, im trying to convince myself not to regret...

the only purchase i really never regretted was my intro into the audiophile realm, my home rig. it probably pales to various headfiers' rigs, but i enjoy it. sure, those $20,000 speakers i tease myself with at the hi-fi store sound great, but my dynaudios make me damn happy too.

and yeah, those ARE eggos on good ol optimus. i bought my GF a pair many moons ago, but i was taken by their looks, and decided to put them on Prime (i couldnt get the AKG K501s to work)
 
Dec 23, 2002 at 4:03 AM Post #9 of 17
I can do both... sometimes, I just get a major impulse to BUY BUY BUY!!! (like I did a few years ago with barcode scanners - don't ask), and sometimes I just hem and haw and decide I don't need/can't afford something but still keep coming back (*cough* Sony D-25S to repair my D-555 *cough*), and sometimes I just buy and don't regret it (secret personal stash of EL2009s).
 
Dec 23, 2002 at 4:49 AM Post #11 of 17
I am the same way as nanahachi. I have been researching inteconnect cables for over a month now. I can not decide which ones to buy.

Then there is times like the other day in Boise. I walked into The Record Exchange and imediatley went brain dead. I couldn't hardly remember which groups I like let alone what I was looking for. Of course I never even thought to bring my list when I left home.
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Dec 23, 2002 at 4:53 AM Post #12 of 17
nanahachi,

part of your problem is that when you contemplate a purchase, you ask others for their opinions. you definitely want to ask others what mistakes they made so that you do not make the same one, but at the same time, you weigh their opinions too much.

if you hear the headphones, and you like them, then get them. the problem will be when you take them home and you find that they do not sound right with your sources. now you've got big problems. the other guy had a different cdp, with different interconnects, and a different amp. what to do? well, what you could have done was ask him to lend them to you for a week. then you could have listened to them on your own equipment, for as long as you like, and could have made a non-emotional decision. have you heard of headroom's generous return policy? you pay for this priviledge, but you can almost be assured of complete satisfaction.

the cure? buy something. and never read anything about them again (in other words, in this, or any other forum). many people who upgrade their video cards every six months have this very affiction. they analyse so much, that they forget to enjoy their toys. they bought a 2.0 GHz P4 and the 2.4 GHz is out? oooh, look at those benchmarks - gotta have it! yet they never play Quake III at 300 fps... tell me that guys don't do this with cars? tires, car stereos? or boats? or motorcycles? or speakers? or amps? or cameras? or I-Pods, Nomads, pcdp, tubes, TVs, chainsaws, etc. it's a male thing. we gotta have the best. at any cost. manufacturer's love guys like you.
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look at all the people getting rid of W100, W2002, Melos, HP-1, A1000, Meta42, Porta Cordas, amp this, cables that, headphones here, headphones there. etc., etc., etc.

it masks an inner deficency. and we all have them. no problem. just learn to live with it. the secret is knowing when a bargain is staring you in the face and your indecision costs you. a mature person will acknowledge their missed opportunity and look forward to such a bargain again, with the full knowledge that he will not let it go by the next time. an immature person will dwell on the lost opportunity and makes bad purchasing decisions thereafter.

the cure for excessive male spending? a wife.you think you are going to get those $500 headphones, when she wants new carpets, the house painted, a new washing machine, the car fixed, a new kitchen floor, new kitchen cabinets, a better sofa, a better bed, a new bathroom, a deck, add on a baby-room, a better vacuum cleaner, the microwave is broken..., get out there an clean the windows you bum, the roof leaks.... forget about golf. forget your football Sundays with the guys....

the cure? get another hobby that will drain that pocket. skydiving, photography, motobiking, sailboats, car racing, scuba, skying, mountain climbing, world travel, ...

it never ends.

you're doomed. doomed, I tell you!.
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Dec 23, 2002 at 7:32 AM Post #13 of 17
nanahachi
When torn between two products, buy both. Sell the one that loses the comparison. A good strategy for selling seems to be to post a big sale in the Gear For Sale forum using phrases such as, "I've decided to get out of headphones" or "I got carried away and I'm going to scale down" or even, "I have tinnitus and I'm switching to speakers." Take comfort in knowing that no matter which choice you make, you'll want something different eventually and sooner than later if you stay active in the forums. Thus, no decision can really be a bad one.

I think this is a fun hobby. I like listening to different amps and pulling out the differences between them and looking forward to the seeing technology progress with each new development. This is admitedly a very seperate hobby from music listening. I reject the notion that one must follow one hobby or the other as both are interesting to me, but if you just want to listen to music there is a simpler method to all this.

Figure out what your total budget is. If headphone only, you know you need a headphone, amplifier, source and cabels in the least. Figure out how you can split that up, get what you want and then stick to it. Buy a lot of music and enjoy that and your other hobbies. If you need help with that, I'm sure there are lots of us who have already done the legwork who can help you narrow down some good options. To a certain extent, keep in mind that the differences are often somewhat exaggerated and that most of the popular stuff on this forum is within a solid range of quality so you can't really go very wrong.
 
Dec 23, 2002 at 11:51 AM Post #14 of 17
When in doubt, follow your instincts and just PLUNGE!
What you don't know is your worst fear. So get to know some of that gear you are contemplating. I like to research too, but man, after awhile, you gotta just step up to the plate
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md
 
Dec 23, 2002 at 12:35 PM Post #15 of 17
Quote:

To a certain extent, keep in mind that the differences are often somewhat exaggerated and that most of the popular stuff on this forum is within a solid range of quality so you can't really go very wrong.


Excellent point!
 

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