[adrianm]

Uh Uh - let them fight!

To make it short: Is anyone who has abondend a Chord TT2/Mscaler/ Dave for a Bartok unhappy with the decision?

Of course not.People don't regret magic cables either Seems like you're trying really hard to justify it over a Dave.I think any decision you make without listening yourself and comparing them would be a wrong decision.The only time you can really be subjective is when you don't have skin in the game.After that you'll just convince yourself you made the right decision.If you haven't though your feelings will come bubbling up eventually and you'll sell and get new stuff,as so many people on the forums do.Your brain plays the biggest part in all this.Which is why snake oil works.Emperor's new clothes and all.
For example on some stuff that i ordered i'm keeping because i can't be bothered with returning them and they're the right length,etc.

 

[Jon773]

Uh Uh - let them fight!

To make it short: Is anyone who has abondend a Chord TT2/Mscaler/ Dave for a Bartok unhappy with the decision?

I have access to a DAVE as a good friend of mine who lives just down the road has had once since they first came out. I have spent quite a bit of time listening to it and to be honest if i had a DAVE i would not be looking at a Bartok as an next step. Different, yes; but better, not so sure its such a personal decision at the higher price points across different brands and ranges. I upgraded from the original Vega and its a good step forward for me. If you stick with dCS, then a worthwhile step forward from a DAVE would be a Rossini DAC. But then you need a good headphone amp and cables as well. So the price difference is more than double the DAVE.

 

[adrianm]

I have access to a DAVE as a good friend of mine who lives just down the road has had once since they first came out. I have spent quite a bit of time listening to it and to be honest if i had a DAVE i would not be looking at a Bartok as an next step. Different, yes; but better, not so sure its such a personal decision at the higher price points across different brands and ranges. I upgraded from the original Vega and its a good step forward for me. If you stick with dCS, then a worthwhile step forward from a DAVE would be a Vivaldi DAC. But then you need a good headphone amp and cables as well. So the price difference is more than double the DAVE.

Thanks for some clarity ,i was curious as well.Does your friend use dedicated streamers,regenerators ,etc?

 

[Jon773]

He streams from his NAS drives through a Sonore microRendu into the DAVE. Sound is good for the money spent. Possibly some upside for him if he upgrades the microRendu; but we are into more marginal gains i think.

Control of the music is done using Roon.

 

[adrianm]

He streams from his NAS drives through a Sonore microRendu into the DAVE. Sound is good for the money spent. Possibly some upside for him if he upgrades the microRendu; but we are into more marginal gains i think.

Control of the music is done using Roon.

Sounds like good value for half the price of the Bartok.Plus some people actually prefer the Dave.

 

[TheAttorney]

I guess a month on this forum takes its toll.People believe anything

And a day of reading your posts has also taken its toll. Please can you add a space after each punctuation mark - it's almost as irritating as your attitude.

 

[adrianm]

And a day of reading your posts has also taken its toll. Please can you add a space after each punctuation mark - it's almost as irritating as your attitude.

I can’t.It’s a package deal.

 

[TheAttorney]

I can’t.It’s a package deal.

Possibly your best post so far

 

[Jon773]

Sounds like good value for half the price of the Bartok.Plus some people actually prefer the Dave.

Yes i honestly think it comes down to preference at these higher price points. First time i tried the DAVE i went round my friends for dinner and he said to quickly try it with his LCD-3 headphones. I ended up being called to the dinner table an hour later... Its a very impressive piece of kit. Its up there with the Bartok and i know i would have been happy with either one.

 

[adrianm]

Possibly your best post so far

Thanks,I really appreciate your contribution as well.We're all learning stuff.

 

[adrianm]

Yes i honestly think it comes down to preference at these higher price points. First time i tried the DAVE i went round my friends for dinner and he said to quickly try it with his LCD-3 headphones. I ended up being called to the dinner table an hour later... Its a very impressive piece of kit. Its up there with the Bartok and i know i would have been happy with either one.

That's cool.I noticed you went through a lot of Hifiman headphones,any reason why you keep selling and coming back to them?

 

[endre83]

Possibly your best post so far

Imagine the attention and dedication one has to provide...

 

[CreditingKarma]

Sounds like good value for half the price of the Bartok.Plus some people actually prefer the Dave.

The Dave and a streamer are not 1/2 the price of a Bartok.the bartok has a built-in streamer and the amp section is significantly better than what is in the Dave if you have hard to drive headphones.

 

[adrianm]

Imagine the attention and dedication one has to provide...

I do feel a bit like a J.K Rowling,never had fans of my work before.

 

[adrianm]

The Dave and a streamer are not 1/2 the price of a Bartok.the bartok has a built-in streamer and the amp section is significantly better than what is in the Dave if you have hard to drive headphones.

If you believe in streamers making that much of a difference,having heard the Dave with both a Node2i and a Naim ND555 via optical,the difference was negligible,if any.
I'd rather use my desktop pc ,if not there are cheaper streaming solutions.Plus the Node2i's interface was nicer than the Auralic one for example and for such a small difference,i'd prefer the better interface.The node still sounded worse than my PC though..People on the Dave forum ,Rob included were saying the amp section is basically the same power,just unbalanced.Whether or not it's actually worse ,being unbalanced is another discussion.I think you're the guy who pissed Rob off though,right?
We might be getting a Dave 2 sooner because of you
Either way i don't use/plan on getting Susvaras or the like,i'm actually only using closed headphones because of practical reasons.So for me the difference is literally twice the price for the Bartok.