Darkvoice 336i & 336SE Tuberolling PartII
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:00 PM Post #4,726 of 14,501
@therremans we will have to compare notes on this. Deyan made me an adapter for the A2293s as well. I just got my tubes in, waiting on the adapter. we gotta let our pal shimacm know if this is a GO or not. I can't ever see myself buying a GEC 6AS7G any time soon, so down the rabbit hole we go...
Yes friend exactly. One day we may be so lucky as to snag one at a good price. Or I’ll just get rich enough and buy everyone GECs. Let me know when you give yours the first listen.
 
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:02 PM Post #4,727 of 14,501
yes the silicone tip, I like the one handed use, and it has great suction power, just have to clear the solder form the tip often, if my iron was hotter I probably wouldnt have this hiccup. The solder solidifies on exit quickly, see if I can get a pic of the pieces I pulled out last night
Well you have a new soldering iron station on the way right? Also with as little soldering as we do it’s probably good, yeah? But, I’d return it if you want.
 
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:04 PM Post #4,728 of 14,501
Out of all of my power tubes, the 5998 is the only one that makes pinging noises as the glass heats and cools. Has anyone else heard it?

Yup. The Chatham 6AS7G's do it too. But if you really want to hear pinging, try a 300B. Gets to be kind of enjoyable once the realization that it's normal replaces the initial panic. :smile:
 
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:06 PM Post #4,729 of 14,501
Got to be honest here. I find the stock tubes fairy good for my preferences. I'll take musical over sterile/detailed any day of the week. I just got the amp and it I'll burn it in for a day then swap to my other set of tubes. I'm sure they are better, but I'll bet many find this very listenable.

Using Sennheiser HD6XX. Yeah if you own these headphones just buy the DV. Great synergy here.
I agree with you on the musical over sterile/detailed. But you assume tube swapping is to achieve details? Some combinations also make things much more musical than the stock, with details. But running the stock tubes isn’t a bad thing or investing minimal $ in replacements is understandable.

also welcome to the club haha. :beerchug: And my hd6xx still impress me. Good choice
 
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Nov 21, 2020 at 12:13 PM Post #4,730 of 14,501
Well you have a new soldering iron station on the way right? Also with as little soldering as we do it’s probably good, yeah? But, I’d return it if you want.
I'm still sitting on the buy button.. :D What temps do you use when soldering? My iron is plug in play.
 
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:23 PM Post #4,731 of 14,501
I agree with you on the musical over sterile/detailed. But you assume tube swapping is to achieve details? Some combinations also make things much more musical than the stock, with details. But running the stock tubes isn’t a bad thing or investing minimal $ in replacements is understandable.

also welcome to the club haha. :beerchug: And my hd6xx still impress me. Good choice
Sorry to sound like I meant swapping tubes was meant to make it sterile. I just meant that I would trade musical for accurate and sterile. I am little bit experienced with swapping tubes in my Rogue CM1 speaker amp.

I quite tempted to just swap in my replacements now. I have a Tung Sol 6SN7GTB and a Winged "C" 6H13C.
 
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:30 PM Post #4,732 of 14,501
I'm still sitting on the buy button.. :D What temps do you use when soldering? My iron is plug in play.
usually around 400 F
 
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:38 PM Post #4,733 of 14,501
Sorry to sound like I meant swapping tubes was meant to make it sterile. I just meant that I would trade musical for accurate and sterile. I am little bit experienced with swapping tubes in my Rogue CM1 speaker amp.

I quite tempted to just swap in my replacements now. I have a Tung Sol 6SN7GTB and a Winged "C" 6H13C.
Okay, yeah nice. I say go for it and let us know. Probably clearer highs and a better midrange response incoming.
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Nov 21, 2020 at 12:40 PM Post #4,734 of 14,501
Just for reference, a real 5692 (this one a CBS/Hytron). The 5692 was a ruggedized (and supposedly longer life) version of a 6SN7 evidenced by the triple micas and a total of 5 support rods, albeit with a lower max plate voltage rating than a 6SN7GT.

5692 CBS Hytron.jpg
 
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:42 PM Post #4,735 of 14,501
Just for reference, a real 5692 (this one a CBS/Hytron). The 5692 was a ruggedized (and supposedly longer life) version of a 6SN7 evidenced by the triple micas and a total of 5 support rods, albeit with a lower max plate voltage rating than a 6SN7GT.

5692 CBS Hytron.jpg
How does it sound?
 
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:43 PM Post #4,736 of 14,501
yes the silicone tip, I like the one handed use, and it has great suction power, just have to clear the solder form the tip often, if my iron was hotter I probably wouldnt have this hiccup. The solder solidifies on exit quickly, see if I can get a pic of the pieces I pulled out last night

The Soldapullt needs 2 hands to reset it, but works one-handed just fine when you push the suck button. :smile:
 
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:44 PM Post #4,737 of 14,501
The Soldapullt needs 2 hands to reset it, but works one-handed just fine when you push the suck button. :smile:
I use it one handed by pressing it against the cabinet to load it
 
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:47 PM Post #4,738 of 14,501
How does it sound?

It was my go-to tube in Cary amps and preamps. Didn't light my fire in the Schiit Lyr 3 or Vali 2. Honestly haven't tried it in the DV or the Incubus. Crap, one more thing to add to the list. LOL!
 
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:50 PM Post #4,739 of 14,501
usually around 400 F

I set my Weller at 750 for doing pins. Haven't fried anything.....yet. The faster you can get the heat on, melt the solder, and get the heat off the better IMO (within reason, of course...1000 degrees might be a bit much :smile:).
 
Nov 21, 2020 at 1:04 PM Post #4,740 of 14,501
I set my Weller at 750 for doing pins. Haven't fried anything.....yet. The faster you can get the heat on, melt the solder, and get the heat off the better IMO (within reason, of course...1000 degrees might be a bit much :smile:).
I’ll try a higher temp for the next pin job. I see your logic here for de-soldering as the shortest amount of time the better. I’d also note that using a liquid flux would be a good idea? I always use a flux dispensing pen. Now is it recommended for pins?
 

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