Darkvoice 336i & 336SE Tuberolling PartII
Mar 7, 2019 at 1:43 PM Post #1,906 of 14,501
.. I was starting to think my wife put you guys up to this. She told me last week.. "If one more light bulb comes in the mail!!!!"
I'm a Capricorn so if you know them they jump in two feet on any project or said hobby. Don't know what would happened if I got the LaFigaro amp instead of this one, 2 of each tube... $$$$.. :D So yeah, I am still wanting that one last tube to crown my little collection. The Mother Of All 5998 tubes... The Western Electric 421a. Then I feel I could ride into the sunset. Or not.
Not.
Tell your wife you will not buy any tube in the near future.
Then you can secretly buy the batch linked in my last message. Ask the seller marked it as tools? on the box.
 
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Mar 7, 2019 at 2:38 PM Post #1,907 of 14,501
Hey guys -

Interested in experiementing with this aspect of the hobby. Any recommendations for a noob?

I'd be curious to do a little more reading on this too so if anyone can point me in the direction of some literature that would be greatly appreciated too!

Thanks in advance.
 
Mar 8, 2019 at 6:07 PM Post #1,908 of 14,501
Western Electric 421 A.jpg

421A Power Tube



Tung-Sol 7236.jpg


NOS USA Tung-Sol 7236 Power Tube
 
Mar 8, 2019 at 6:08 PM Post #1,909 of 14,501
Driver is always USA NOS Tall Bottle 6SN7
 
Mar 9, 2019 at 7:34 AM Post #1,911 of 14,501
421A slightly more power. Tighter deeper bass. But the 7236 is not that far behind. Then you have the 5998. finally the 6AS7.
 
Mar 10, 2019 at 12:35 AM Post #1,913 of 14,501
Anybody here powering desktop speakers with their Darkvoice? I see outputs on this thing, wondering how users here are using it if at all..
You use it as a preamp output into your main amplifier. If you have a solid-state power amplifier that sounds a little bright or harsh to you, you could warm it up and soften it by using the dark voice as a preamp . If you did try to power a set of speakers they would have to roughly be 100db or more efficiency to take it vantage of 1 W or less of power, not only that the dark voice was meant for higher impedance headphones . Not low impedance four ohm or eight ohm speakers
 
Mar 10, 2019 at 1:08 AM Post #1,914 of 14,501
So the Darkvoice 336SE is now available on Massdrop. I've never used a tube amp before. What should I expect compared to solid state amps? I'd be powering HD6XX and 58X headphones.
 
Mar 10, 2019 at 3:11 AM Post #1,915 of 14,501
So the Darkvoice 336SE is now available on Massdrop. I've never used a tube amp before. What should I expect compared to solid state amps? I'd be powering HD6XX and 58X headphones.
Buying some NOS (New Old Stock) tubes right away would be your first experience. A nice warm sound with added bass and width to the Sennheisers. Because of the high impedance of the two cans you have, the Darkvoice will excel in driving them because of it's OTL (Output Transformer-Less) design, almost made just for the Sennheiser. reading back 20 pages (here on this thread, heck, read from page 67 and on) will save you a lot of monies towards tube choices. And the Massdrop Discussion group has a lot of info too. We can also recommend tubes for ya to begin with.
 
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Mar 10, 2019 at 11:43 AM Post #1,916 of 14,501
Anybody here powering desktop speakers with their Darkvoice? I see outputs on this thing, wondering how users here are using it if at all..

I doubt the Darkvoice 336 has enough power for speakers unless they are powered. However, I have been enjoying using the Darkvoice 336 as a preamp for my amp + speakers so much that I retired my regular preamp. In my setup

PC->DAC->Darkvoice 336->amp->speakers

Darkvoice 336 produces a detailed, warmer, spatial music presentation, much better enjoyable than my other solid state preamps.
 
Mar 12, 2019 at 9:04 AM Post #1,919 of 14,501
Just got myself a 336se. Should be here next week. I previously had a Little Dot MKii which I foolishly sold off despite having collected some very nice tubes for and I've been missing it for my 6xx. Instead of rebuying I decided to try something different.

I've already won auctions for a red label RCA 6AS7G and an RCA 6NS7 grey ladder to get started.

Any recommendations for some "must try" tubes for this guy? I'm wondering if there equivalents to some of the "must trys" for the LDmkii (Voshkod EV, GE Jan 5654, Mullard 8100, etc).


Any advice to first time owner would be much appreciated.
 
Mar 12, 2019 at 9:18 AM Post #1,920 of 14,501
Just got myself a 336se. Should be here next week. I previously had a Little Dot MKii which I foolishly sold off despite having collected some very nice tubes for and I've been missing it for my 6xx. Instead of rebuying I decided to try something different.

I've already won auctions for a red label RCA 6AS7G and an RCA 6NS7 grey ladder to get started.

Any recommendations for some "must try" tubes for this guy? I'm wondering if there equivalents to some of the "must trys" for the LDmkii (Voshkod EV, GE Jan 5654, Mullard 8100, etc).


Any advice to first time owner would be much appreciated.

This is the list I gathered from this thread sorted according to feedback.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/dar...erolling-partii.348833/page-113#post-14431082
 

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