Darkvoice 336i & 336SE Tuberolling PartII
Nov 29, 2020 at 7:25 PM Post #4,891 of 14,501
Nov 29, 2020 at 7:27 PM Post #4,892 of 14,501
One of my amps is a little jelly...

You obviously need some butter tubes. Assuming, of course, you have enough bread. :joy::joy:
 
Dec 1, 2020 at 12:32 PM Post #4,893 of 14,501
My Sylvania 6sn7gt vt231 arrived. Excellent tube. Lots of transparency and lots of details. For vocals it is a delight. Great synergy with RCA 6as7g and Mullard 6080.

I pulled the trigger on a Melz 1578 year 69. I made an offer and the seller sold me for $ 37. It was listed as used. I hope a bad tube doesn't arrive here.

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Dec 1, 2020 at 1:02 PM Post #4,894 of 14,501
My Sylvania 6sn7gt vt231 arrived. Excellent tube. Lots of transparency and lots of details. For vocals it is a delight. Great synergy with RCA 6as7g and Mullard 6080.

I pulled the trigger on a Melz 1578 year 69. I made an offer and the seller sold me for $ 37. It was listed as used. I hope a bad tube doesn't arrive here.

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The Melz (as well as the Fotons) are normally very reliable, quiet, and long-life tubes. Only potential issue is the pin solder. Some are fine, some aren't.

I have a '53 Foton that has probably 3k+ hours on it, and it tests only about 5% lower in GM than when I first got it...and still pretty close to NOS values.
 
Dec 1, 2020 at 1:15 PM Post #4,895 of 14,501
The Melz (as well as the Fotons) are normally very reliable, quiet, and long-life tubes. Only potential issue is the pin solder. Some are fine, some aren't.

I have a '53 Foton that has probably 3k+ hours on it, and it tests only about 5% lower in GM than when I first got it...and still pretty close to NOS values.

What good news! So I got a bargain. :)
 
Dec 1, 2020 at 1:26 PM Post #4,897 of 14,501
Got wind of these tubes in Facebook and decided to take a chance on them, not expensive so why not. the word is Baldwin Organ company sourced their tubes from Sylvania, that they asked for only their best of the best. How could I resist that!? 😂 Don't know much about Sylvania 6SN7GTB. Anybody hear anything similar, different?
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Dec 1, 2020 at 1:45 PM Post #4,898 of 14,501
Got wind of these tubes in Facebook and decided to take a chance on them, not expensive so why not. the word is Baldwin Organ company sourced their tubes from Sylvania, that they asked for only their best of the best. How could I resist that!? 😂 Don't know much about Sylvania 6SN7GTB. Anybody hear anything similar, different?
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They are typical Sylvania sound -- maybe less smooth at the top, a little less refined, but still has a full rich, very slightly lush sound. It's a really great economy priced tubes. One of those really nice bangs for the buck. Tubes made for Organs and Radios are hidden gems, especially wanting great sound for not a lot of dough.

@JKDJedi Remember the Westinghouse Reliatrons? I felt similar with these Baldwins. Speaking of which, you gonna do a Sylvania Bad Boy vs the Organ Choir Baldwin Duo?
 
Dec 1, 2020 at 2:01 PM Post #4,899 of 14,501
They are typical Sylvania sound -- maybe less smooth at the top, a little less refined, but still has a full rich, very slightly lush sound. It's a really great economy priced tubes. One of those really nice bangs for the buck. Tubes made for Organs and Radios are hidden gems, especially wanting great sound for not a lot of dough.

@JKDJedi Remember the Westinghouse Reliatrons? I felt similar with these Baldwins. Speaking of which, you gonna do a Sylvania Bad Boy vs the Organ Choir Baldwin Duo?
Will Do ! 🙂
 
Dec 1, 2020 at 2:09 PM Post #4,900 of 14,501
I heard some comments saying that Sylvania v231 is very close to Tung-Sol round plates. What can you say about that?
 
Dec 1, 2020 at 4:43 PM Post #4,903 of 14,501
Just in... #postoffice and I forgot about these guys. 53' Fotons with M stamped on them.. what's that all about Sir @bcowen ? racing home to give these a spin, they seem to be a better build than (my little collection of them so far)
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The "M" stands for "Me," as in you need to send them to me. :laughing: :laughing:

Seriously, I have no idea what the M stands for. The "OTK" symbol (when it's there) is a military approval, similar to the JAN designation on US-made tubes. I have some with the M and some without...honestly haven't heard any difference between them.
 
Dec 1, 2020 at 4:58 PM Post #4,904 of 14,501
The "M" stands for "Me," as in you need to send them to me. :laughing: :laughing:

Seriously, I have no idea what the M stands for. The "OTK" symbol (when it's there) is a military approval, similar to the JAN designation on US-made tubes. I have some with the M and some without...honestly haven't heard any difference between them.
They're carbon copy, save the top mica material ( translucent material on the right) and the tabs ( bottom mica ) support the plates (left).
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Dec 2, 2020 at 2:19 AM Post #4,905 of 14,501
Anyone attempt to fix the voltage problem difference for the Darkvoice? As you know, the Darkvoice 336SE for the US market is rated at 110v when our mains are well above this. Does this actually cause more voltage going to the tubes, which would shorten lifespan? If this isn't the case, wouldn't it be ideal to allow the transformer to work at its rated spec? So why not use an affordable external variable transformer like the Variac? Overkill? Maybe. Will I buy it? Already did.

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