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Darkvoice 336i & 336SE Tuberolling PartII

Discussion in 'Headphone Amps (full-size)' started by heatfan12, Jul 31, 2008.
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  1. ggillies
    Very nice write-up. Thanks for putting that effort in.
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  2. ggillies
    This weekend, I went to my local high-end HiFi store to do some critical listening for a new pair of headphones and took my music with me.

    My intent was just to listen to the headphones on my list, but as usual, I got sidetracked.

    I ended up listening to their state-of-the-art system in their big room. Around $1.2 million worth of components, including Wilson Audio WAMM speakers etc.

    Then moved on to the headphone part.

    Setup was an Aurender X100L Music Server/Streamer and an Ayre Codex Amp/DAC.

    I listened to a bunch of headphones, including Mr. Speakers Etherflow 2.1s, HiFiMan HE1000 V2s, Audeze LCD 3s. I also brought my Oppo Digital PM3s and my Focal Clears.

    Turns out I like the Focal Clears better than anything else I tried.

    I also didn't think the Aurender plus Ayre setup was as good as my Topping D50/Darkvoice setup. It just sounded dry and flat and lacking in emotion and "realness", especially on stringed instruments, brass and voices. The treble also seemed a bit dull
    Of all the headphones, I disliked the Audeze LCD 3s the most. The bass was way too bloomy and fat, and the midrange and voices were recessed tremendously compared to the other headphones. I liked the Etherflow 2.1s the best after my Focals.

    And that's a wrap of my weekend shenanigans.
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2019
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  3. JKDJedi
    Wish we had a store like that here in the desert. Adulthood candy store!
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  4. JKDJedi
    What do you guys think..will the Darkvoice blow this tube up? 0219191853.jpg
  5. dobigstuff
    Once you find a NOS USA Tung-Sol Tall Bottle 6SN7 Driver Tube you probably will find its a keeper.
  6. JKDJedi
    I thought 6SN7 were preamp tubes ?
  7. dobigstuff
    I always thought the Front Tube (6SN7) was the Driver and the rear Tube (6AS7) was the Power Tube.
  8. ggillies
    That is my understanding as well. Big tube in back = power tube, small tube in front = driver tube.
  9. JKDJedi
    Tie breaker anyone ?
    Ok.. Maybe its driver and Preamp? Reason I call it the preamp tube is because Thetubestore.com has the 6SN7 in its Preamp section.. No Driver section on their website..maybe a Canadian thing?
    And heres a store in the USA that calls them preamp..no Driver on their website o.O Thinking maybe the term "driver" is used in Europe?
    Not trying to be argumentative..just sharing why I'm a little confused..turns out they can be called anything is what I'm getting from the tube rollers Facebook page. That They could be called "Oscillator", "Flip-flop" and just now watching a Youtube vid...he used the driver term for the preamp section ... So yeah...we're all correct in our terminology of this part of the amp! the term Driver..sounds like it's describing the Power tube.. but hey..that's just me. MAybe it'll grow on me..lol.
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2019
  10. JKDJedi
    ANyone here currently using adapters to roll 12AU7 & 6GC7 type tubes?
  11. JKDJedi
    So I decided to read this thread from page 61 on.... LOT OF INFO HERE!!!!
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  12. JKDJedi
    She has arrived...15 days later..talk about delayed shipment. Chi Fi
    Shu Guang Black Treasure
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  13. ggillies
    I will be VERY interested in your opinion on this one. Keep us up to date on what you think of it.

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  14. JKDJedi
    Thanks.. Just dropped her in, will hibe it a couple days to settle in...and it's a little funky looking with the straight power bottle..lol. Now I need a decent coke bottle to make it look right. RCA, Tung-Sol, ??
  15. dobigstuff
    USA NOS Tung-Sol 5998
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