Cyberpower AVR UPS
Nov 25, 2002 at 5:21 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 6

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I bought a 1000AVR from Best Buy, to try one of the these out for the heck of it since there has been some positive statements (here by botchki) about this certain UPS and it is very easily returnable if it does not work out so why not? The general rule is that UPS's and other conditioners used for computers basically suck, which of all the ones I have tried is true, no matter how big, small, or fancy they come they usually restrict dynamics in the system... But I have to say the Cyberpower is the real deal.

I have been using a Furman PM-8 conditioner which to me sounded better than straight from the wall since it did not limit the dynamics also giving a "cleaner" sound (lower noise floor), it's a decent conditioner but not known to do all that much. I used a noise filter in conjunction with the Furman for the DAC since the tradeoff of using the filter vs the improvement in detail was a one I could live with (the filter affected the DACs dynamics the least and made the most improvement vs the transport or the amp where the results were not so positive)... I wanted to try something that would hold me over till I could get a higher end conditioner like an Audio Magic, and did not know if I could find something at a decent price that would improve over the Furman with filter. Well the Cyberpower improved on the combo... The sound is now much much fuller, impactful, with an expansion in the horizontal soundstage. And still sounds clean without affecting the tonality of the system... it's the same sound just a more of it or maybe a better way to explain is it's being magnified. I personally did not think that I could improve on the dynamics and fullness over the Furman because it was very similar to coming straight from the wall. This unit is not broken in either, I have had only around 24+ hours, so we will see where it goes with more break in (which I guess could be downhill but we will see).

The Cyberpower is well worth a try if you are looking for a decent surge protector, conditioner. I'm impressd, but I am sure some people will have different results, etc, they still might prefer straight from the wall.
Side note: Best Buy also has a 10% off PC peripherals coupon in Maxim that I used to buy the Cyberpower.
 
Nov 27, 2002 at 12:23 AM Post #4 of 6
Is this product specifically designed for audio systems or is it a computer product? What does the literature for the unit say about current limiting? I assume you would not be able to plug in a 5-ch 150-watt amp?

Have you tried any of the Monster products? I'm sure best buy has the Monsters. Might be worth getting one to a comparison. The PB1100 is about as low in the Monster line as one should dip and it retails for $199.

Mark
 
Nov 27, 2002 at 6:05 AM Post #5 of 6
The 1500 supposedly has quite a bit of hum compared to the smaller ones, and I am not willing to live with more hum than what the 1000 produces, which is only a little, since it is right next to my bed.

Yes, it is a UPS for computers, and it does have a limit on how much current can be drawn so I would not suggest power amps.
I have not tried the Monsters but one day I might get around to it just to compare either used or if a friend is willing to get one, but really I am aiming for an Audio Magic (mini-digital) Stealth.

The 1000 is still breaking in so I have no idea where the sound will settle to yet. Will have to see.
 
Nov 27, 2002 at 6:33 AM Post #6 of 6
Bootman, no I haven't tried the AVR 1500 but the only difference is in the amount of output power, as far as I can tell by reading about them. The AVR 1500 has 970 watts, the AVR 1250 670 watts, and the AVR 1000 500 watts. By contrast the PS Audio 300 is rated at 300 watts, the PS Audio 600 at 720 watts (Markl that should answer your question about whether or not you can plug your 150 watt amp into one). For my purposes, the AVR 1000 is enough. I run a Sim Moon Integrated I-5 amp, a Musical Fidelity A3 CD player, and Antness' headphone amp with it and it works great.

Markl, I have tried Monster products, though not the PB1100. I used the Hts2000 for a year, and there is no comparison in my opinion. What the AVR gives you is automatic voltage regulation which gives you a constant flow of 120 volts going to your equipment. The only product that Monster sells in their power line that offers this is their new Home Theater Automatic Voltage Stabilizer AVS 2000 which runs $1500. They have a huge write up about it and its importance to sound at their website if you're interested. Yes the Cyber Power was designed for computers, but I could care less. What matters to me is whether or not I hear a difference in my system with my ears, and these ears are saying thank you as the difference is quite substantial. Like AC1, I was planning on scraping up the funds to get an Audio Magic Stealth when I was told about this product and decided to try it. I'm not saying I won't at some point if and when I feel flush try a Stealth (now I'm even more curious), but for now I'm quite happy. At $150 the AVR 1000 was a steal. The difference between that and $1600 for a stealth I can use for any other tweaks I may find. Anyone here use or know about the Machina Dynamica Vibration Isolation Platform?????
 

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