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Oct 14, 2018 at 11:26 PM Post #1,021 of 3,338
Thanks for the review and opinions. What were your thoughts on the silver & normal filters?

Your review points to poor bass performance and wishing you had more air and less mid-bass/lower-mids, but you picked the filter which has the least upper-mids and treble emphasis and more bass emphasis (which can muddy the waters a little bit) so curious if the other filters made it better or did they improve some things and but make others worse than with the gold ones.

I found the gold ones too bassy for my liking and would occasionally muddy up everything. If i were to had reviewed that one, I'd probably rate it lower than I had reviewed with the normal filter.

I think I gave the DMG the best shot I could by reviewing it with the filter that I liked the most; just like you, if I were to review the normal filter, I'd probably rate it lower than if I had reviewed with the normal filter. Well, probably not. The differences are really tiny and filters don't affect technical ability anyways.

@crinacle
Appreciate all the hard and extensive work you`ve put in in all these measurements. Those graphs are a great tool and point of reference. Question i have is how does recently tested GT3 SuberBass compares to other bassy IEMs. Its supposed to have a thin diaphragm ( although of an unknown diameter and material ). Just wonder how competent that IEM is. If you could just point out its overall sound signature. Thanks.

The signature of the GT3 Superbass is a downsloping one where bass > mids > treble, though only slightly. Don't think it's very impressive myself.
 
Oct 15, 2018 at 7:21 AM Post #1,024 of 3,338
Ramblings of a man with nothing better to do: "Technicalities"

I have a bit of free time before I go on a short hiatus, so I guess here's Episode 2 of my ramblings (assuming if it does become a semi-regular series). Today, I shall talk about one of the "buzzwords" that I like to throw around here: technical ability. Not necessarily an educational post but more me being transparent on how my critical listening process works. Maybe it could apply to you as well.

* Do note that whatever I write here is still mostly "pseudoscience" in that most of the things here aren't peer-reviewed or academically researched (or scientifically accurate, for that matter!), more simply being a description of how I personally interpret what I'm hearing and how I assign "markers" to identify how good an IEM is beyond the veil of personal preference and taste.

Transients

Also known as "speed" in other circles, I personally define transients as comprising of the initial "attack" function and the subsequent "decay" function. In the professional world of synthesisers the term "ADSR envelope" is used, which stands for "Attack-Decay-Sustain-Release". I lump the A-D-S parameters into the "attack" term as a catch-all and rename the Release parameter back into decay for a few reasons:
  • Given that we're dealing with transducers than instruments, we can assume that the "A" in the ADSR envelope is instantaneous and therefore a fixed variable (and can be ignored).
  • The ADSR envelope breaks down the length of the note's "hit" as how the attack decays into the sustain. For transducers, I think it can be simplified as "length of attack" assuming the above point is implemented.
  • Having just two parameters (attack and decay) makes things easier to break down and explain.
Attack

Alright, so going under the assumption that a transducer (upon receiving the analog signal) will hit maximum SPL instantaneously, the next issue is how long this "point" gets dragged on. Too long subjectively creates this muddy or congested effect. This is what I'd term as "length of attack, "attack length", "attack speed" etc.. In an ideal situation, the shorter the length of attack, the better.

Short attack vs long attack, shown in 3 notes being struck in quick succession:
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Decay

When most people talk about the speed of the driver, they're usually referring to the attack function. It's a much better objective metric after all; shorter = better and there's little room for argument. On the other hand, decay is a much more fickle metric to talk about; of course, too much decay is quite obviously detrimental to the integrity of the sound, but it's also not like attack where the shortest is objectively better. Decay is one of the things that requires a very delicate balance.

Low decay contributes to the metric of "definition". When the notes attack fast and don't have a lot of linger afterward, the notes are much more clearly distinguished and so better defined. However in real life, nothing has "zero decay". You bang on a drum, the skin continues to vibrate for a short time after it was struck. Pluck a guitar string and there's still sustain of the note long after you've released. Add the effects of room acoustics and post-processing mastering effects and everything we know about what makes a sound "the sound" isn't just what tone it produces but also the pattern in which it decays.

Assuming that the attack is fast, here is what I'd consider to be the "ideal decay" (AKA what happens in real life) visualised in graph form:

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Here's what low/no decay looks like:

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And here's what long decay looks like (exaggerated):

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There is a problem in having too little decay; it's not really representing what you'd probably hear in real life or with a good pair of speakers. Yes, the notes are very well defined but they will sound unnatural. Examples of stuff with short decay are drivers like BAs and electrostats, which have been generally described as having this "ethereal" presence which I would personally attribute to them having way too little linger beyond the initial note. You find yourself wondering if the note was even struck at all because of how fast it disappeared.

Long decay is pretty self-explanatory; you can see that the notes will start smearing into one another and there is very little separation between every attack. Bad drivers are usually the cause of this, perhaps too limp a diaphragm material or too much acoustic resonance without the housing, who knows. The end effect, just like having a long attack, contributes to that muddy/congested sound.



Tonality

It's obvious but I feel like have to re-iterate this: tonality is derived from the word "tone", hence it is a metric primarily based within the frequency domain. The frequency response of an IEM hence affects its tonality. It can also be referred to as "tone colour", though I'd reserve for the metric of timbre (explained later).

Breaking it down further, the tone of any given instrument is made up of the fundamental frequency (that determines the note) and the harmonic frequencies (that give the instruments its unique sound). For instance, a C4 (middle C) note played by different instruments will look as follows on a frequency response plot:

Piano
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Violin
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Trumpet
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Comparison overlay
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When someone refers to "tonal balance", that's also reference to how accurate an instrument may sound; after all, if the balance between the fundamentals and each order of harmonics are correct, so must be the sound. From there, there is the debate on what constitutes as "correct" or neutral which I won't go into right now. Because the concept of neutrality is so fluid and subjective, especially in the IEM world where individual HRTF rears its ugly head the strongest, tonality therefore also becomes a very subjective metric and so I'm very hesitant to judge IEMs based on what sounds "correct" (though I'll mention it and will still arbitrarily be a factor in my rankings).

You hear the term "colouration" getting thrown around a lot but here's how I see it. When the tonality of the sound gets skewed to any direction, it goes from having a neutral tone to a coloured one. Skewing towards the low frequencies creates a "dark tonality", while skewing towards the higher frequencies creates a "bright tonality". Being lower-frequency-biased puts the focus more on the fundamentals and lower-order harmonics, which subjectively gives the instruments some extra richness and heft. On the other hand, being higher-frequency-biased puts the focus more on the higher-order harmonics, which can boost the clarity of the instruments as well as improving the perception of "air".



Further Effects

Timbre

To put it simply, timbre is tonality with time domain, more specifically decay. Or even more specifically, the pattern of decay. Each instrument decays differently so usually an IEM that excels at one particular style of instruments (bowed strings, plucked strings, percussions, vocals etc.) can't be expected to perform as well for others. As mentioned in the Decay section, an IEM needs to strike a balance that works with as many instruments as possible since they can't make use of room acoustics or the acoustics of one's own body to create timbre. Though in practicality, what happens is that you sometimes get drivers that inherently has a timbre "flavour"; for instance:
  • Plastic timbre: Characterised by a hollow sound, sometimes also describes as a certain sense of weightlessness in the notes. This sometimes happens when the decay is unusually fast though is also exacerbated by a higher-frequency-biased tonality. Balanced armatures are its biggest offenders.
  • Metallic timbre: Not necessarily due to an abnormally long decay but rather a ringing decay pattern. Misplaced peaks in the treble can also cause this, though the metallic effect can also manifest itself in baritone and bass instruments depending on severity. Anecdotal examples of IEMs with metallic timbre include the Dita Dream and the JVC HA-FD01.

Temperature

Also known as warmth or lack thereof. What affects how warm an IEM is is combination of transients and tonality, though moreso on tonality. To generalise very broadly, an IEM with lower-frequency-biased tonality is more likely to have a lot of warmth while an IEM with a higher-frequency-biased tonality is less likely to have warmth. This likelihood is boosted by the length of decay, wherein more decay translates to more warmth in theory. This all within a certain range of course; decay beyond a certain point wouldn't sound warm anymore but rather turn into mud though there seems to be some amateurs equating the muddy effect with warmth.

I don't really like to use the term "cold" since it denotes a particularly negative connotation in itself; I prefer to go by a scale of mud-warm-"room temperature" AKA no warmth. Some might describe something like the ER4 as cold; I'd personally just say that it doesn't have a lot of warmth. Neither the presence nor absence of warmth can be objectively good, only how well it plays with one's personal preferences.

Texture

Texture is mostly derived from transients, in particular the shape of the attack and length of decay. When there is enough decay (though again, not too much), the notes can overlap and so created a "smoothed" effect. Though, it is also possible to be both high-definition and smooth if the transducer strikes the balance appropriately. As mentioned, an IEM that is too smoothed has too much decay, and so the aforementioned detriments of long decay kicks in. On the other hand, a textured sound comes from low decay, each note well separated from the other. Too much texture results in the grainy effect, as well as the usual shortcomings of being unnatural.

On the other hand, smoothness and graininess can also be associated with tonality, or more specifically harmonic distortion. Even order distortion is generally pleasant as they harmonise on whole octaves and can create this smoothed, "musical" sound. The "tube sound" is commonly associated with second order distortion, hence giving it their distinct signature. Odd order distortion is generally considered to be destructive due to their relative non-relevance to octave harmony, often being described as giving a fuzzy or grainy effect. As balanced armatures have consistently demonstrate dominating third-order distortion (some as severe as 1% as opposed to the usual of 0.01 or lower), this could be an explanation for the grain (or texture) that some hear on BA IEMs.

Just like temperature, texture is not a measure of objective performance and is all personal taste. However, going too much in any direction (too smoothed, too textured) can be objectively bad and so can kick in as a negative metric for technicalities.



Caveat

Yes I know that scientifically speaking, transducers are minimum phase devices. Whatever exists in time domain will be reflected in the frequency domain for headphones, so all this talk about transients and time-domain are technically completely inaccurate in a truly objective sense. However, I can't really come up with an alternative for the phenomena that I've experienced over the years that I've always attributed to time domain stuff, so they're essentially placeholders for the time being. Cheers to the next few audiophiles who will publish the next big thing in headphone acoustic science.
 
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Oct 15, 2018 at 7:38 AM Post #1,025 of 3,338
First off, brilliant post! Very informative and it brings clarity to anyone trying to comprehend audiophile reviews.

I'm glad I've been interpreting reviews the right way, as most of your definitions/explanations for these terms line up with my previous understanding.

Just a question, which IEMs would you consider to have a plastic timbre? Because I do absolutely agree the Dita Dream has a metallic timbre.
 
Oct 15, 2018 at 8:18 AM Post #1,026 of 3,338
@crinacle About decay: Not sure I follow the argument when you say too short driver decay leads to thin/unnatural sound. Isn't any amount of decay stemming from the earphones "bad" when it comes to faithful rendering of an original sound? Isn't any amount of decay "thickening" the original sound?
 
Oct 15, 2018 at 8:31 AM Post #1,027 of 3,338
@crinacle About decay: Not sure I follow the argument when you say too short driver decay leads to thin/unnatural sound. Isn't any amount of decay stemming from the earphones "bad" when it comes to faithful rendering of an original sound? Isn't any amount of decay "thickening" the original sound?
to fast of decay doesn't sound natural, the real instrument have some lingering decay of the note, for example a kick drum, if the headphone is stopping too fast it will sound unnatural, that is the main reason why dynamic and planar drivers have more natural sounding bass in comparison to the balanced armatures and electrostatics
 
Oct 15, 2018 at 8:36 AM Post #1,028 of 3,338
First off, brilliant post! Very informative and it brings clarity to anyone trying to comprehend audiophile reviews.

I'm glad I've been interpreting reviews the right way, as most of your definitions/explanations for these terms line up with my previous understanding.

Just a question, which IEMs would you consider to have a plastic timbre? Because I do absolutely agree the Dita Dream has a metallic timbre.

Off the top of my head, there's the Rose Mini2. The Massdrop Plus' timbre also prevents me from really liking it.

@crinacle About decay: Not sure I follow the argument when you say too short driver decay leads to thin/unnatural sound. Isn't any amount of decay stemming from the earphones "bad" when it comes to faithful rendering of an original sound? Isn't any amount of decay "thickening" the original sound?

Not really scientific and more anecdotal in this case, but my experience with really "fast" sounding gear (Stax SR-007, L700, Flamenco etc.) have always left me a little unsatisfied with how thin it all sounded, especially in the bass. The importance of longer decay diminishes with increasing frequency so up until say, 2000Hz, and after that point I'd be happy with the driver going as fast as possible from attack to zeroing out.

For the bass regions, I listen to the mentioned equipment and directly compare them to a 2ch setup (no subwoofer) and the difference is still very apparent, even after boosting in EQ (which tells me that the problem is more than just FR). A DD will get me closer to that desired effect and I personally attribute that to the slower decay, also along with the general consensus on how dynamics have (generally) better timbre than other driver types. I'm not really trying to prove anything here of course, again all this is more about revealing my thinking process when evaluating IEMs than actual education and scientific theorising.
 
Oct 15, 2018 at 8:39 AM Post #1,029 of 3,338
to fast of decay doesn't sound natural, the real instrument have some lingering decay of the note, for example a kick drum, if the headphone is stopping too fast it will sound unnatural, that is the main reason why dynamic and planar drivers have more natural sounding bass in comparison to the balanced armatures and electrostatics

You seem to reason as if the driver creates the original sound when it only reproduces it. The natural decay of the kick drum has been recorded, I don't see why the driver shouldn't render it because it has little decay itself.
 
Oct 15, 2018 at 8:46 AM Post #1,030 of 3,338
to fast of decay doesn't sound natural, the real instrument have some lingering decay of the note, for example a kick drum, if the headphone is stopping too fast it will sound unnatural, that is the main reason why dynamic and planar drivers have more natural sounding bass in comparison to the balanced armatures and electrostatics
Instrument's sound decay should be part of the recording. The headphone should render the signal as it comes from the DAC/Amp without additional own colorization. I understand that a "slow" headphone can not follow fast signals and "smears" the sound in its output. But how can it decay too fast? How can the headphone's output signal amplitude go down faster than the amplitude of the incoming signal?
 
Oct 15, 2018 at 8:49 AM Post #1,031 of 3,338
Off the top of my head, there's the Rose Mini2. The Massdrop Plus' timbre also prevents me from really liking it.



Not really scientific and more anecdotal in this case, but my experience with really "fast" sounding gear (Stax SR-007, L700, Flamenco etc.) have always left me a little unsatisfied with how thin it all sounded, especially in the bass. The importance of longer decay diminishes with increasing frequency so up until say, 2000Hz, and after that point I'd be happy with the driver going as fast as possible from attack to zeroing out.

For the bass regions, I listen to the mentioned equipment and directly compare them to a 2ch setup (no subwoofer) and the difference is still very apparent, even after boosting in EQ (which tells me that the problem is more than just FR). A DD will get me closer to that desired effect and I personally attribute that to the slower decay, also along with the general consensus on how dynamics have (generally) better timbre than other driver types. I'm not really trying to prove anything here of course, again all this is more about revealing my thinking process when evaluating IEMs than actual education and scientific theorising.

Maybe the BA/Planar bass rendering seems lacking because of other reasons than short decay such as little air being moved and hence less of the visceral bass sound the DD can provide.
 
Oct 15, 2018 at 8:50 AM Post #1,032 of 3,338
You seem to reason as if the driver creates the original sound when it only reproduces it. The natural decay of the kick drum has been recorded, I don't see why the driver shouldn't render it because it has little decay itself.

I'm assuming you're putting forth the minimum phase argument, in that time-domain effects shouldn't really exist in headphones as they will all be reflected in FR. Your logic is certainly sound and I'll back you up in a vacuum; however, in my experience that is not the case. Two IEMs, one BA and one DD, EQ'd to match each other, sounds different especially down in the bass. That can be attributed to third-order harmonic distortion, who knows. All I'm saying here is an IEM with, for example, BA woofers (and therefore very fast bass) sounds unnatural, reference point being a 2ch setup in a properly treated room. I can boost the IEM's bass up beyond what I perceive to be the bass level of the 2ch setup, but it still doesn't sound right. You can make the argument that this IEM is therefore more true to the source, but most recordings aren't really made with headphones in mind and so doesn't really make sense; the speaker setup should theoretically be the one closer to the source in this case.

I think (and again, not trying to put forth any thesis here) that there is something not being accounted for when playing a non-binaural recording through headphones, and somehow having a longer decay function fixes that issue. My final point being that I have listened to some fast headphones and IEMs and they have always sounded a little off to me in that there isn't enough linger that I'm hearing on actual 2ch setups. Personal preference? Perhaps. But again, I'm comparing to literal speakers here.
 
Oct 15, 2018 at 8:54 AM Post #1,034 of 3,338
I think the reason i don't like most gear is because they don't have the right attack. I'd prefer the attacks to be razor sharp but that doesn't mean its thin sounding either. The attacks also need to have the right amount of weight behind them to give them dynamics which is why I didnt consider the ER4 series as a good sounding iem.

In a word, id say I'm looking for a lifelike iem. No extra decay, colouration, or any brightening nor darkening of the recording. Not just the sound but also the feel, the impact.
So far BA iems and Electrostats have failed to impress in that regard. Not enough driver excursion/air impact I guess?

What would be the closest you guys have heard to lifelike?
 
Oct 15, 2018 at 8:55 AM Post #1,035 of 3,338
@crinacle How would you characterize the 64 audio N8 decay? I'm deciding between that and the A12t. I have enjoyed hybrids in the past, but some had too much decay for me that sounded muddy. A12t is the safe choice for me, but I can't stop thinking about that sweet bass that only a DD can provide.
 

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