Creative ZEN Vision M 99.99
Nov 27, 2008 at 8:42 AM Post #4 of 8

Akselpaksel

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It's a great deal, too bad it's only 30 gig. I've had one for 2-3 years but recently i dropped it on the floor by accident and now the headphone-out is broken. But when it did work, i have to say it really sounded great. Bass is much better than on the ipods i've tried.
 
Nov 28, 2008 at 2:01 AM Post #6 of 8

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That is a killer deal! The Vision:M was the best player Creative ever made (or ever will make at the rate they're going.) Smallish screen but otherwise excellent video and SQ.
 
Nov 28, 2008 at 2:39 AM Post #7 of 8

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It's a refurbished one.


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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Good question. I was skeptical of refurbished products until I learned more about them in an accounting class. Really!

First, refurbs are products that were usually returned under warranty for service or might have had a cosmetic defect. These are fixed and, because the unit cannot be sold as new, they have to be sold at a discount as a refurb, almost always with a warranty.

The accounting angle makes this interesting. If a product is returned and a new replacement is sent out, that means a lot of the profit is lost. So a company can't just ditch the bad product. If a refurb is returned a second time under warranty, that means almost no profit. Third, fourth and further returns start costing the company money.

So while the beancounters really hate returns under warranty, they really hate a second or third return. What that means is that the beancounters/management make damn sure that returned products never come back. After repair, the products are usually tested extensively, moreso than the quick test or two (if even that) a unit right off the assembly line gets. They do not want to see it again.

When you buy a refurb, you usually get a unit that's been tested thoroughly to make sure that it doesn't come back to demolish profits. And you get to buy that at a discount and still get the warranty. For me, that's a no brainer. I always buy refurbs. The computer I'm typing this on is a refurb that saved me about $300. I've never had a problem with one and I've saved thousands in the process. If a refurb carries a warranty, buy it. You'll save money and get a unit that's been tested a lot more than any new one has. It's counterintuitive, but refurbs are better than new ones. You might have to forgive a scratch or two, but that's not a big deal.



Whats wrong with refurbished? I love refurbished.
 

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